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[01:15:05] <sprsquish> Is there a standard way to create a plaintext body when only HTML is given in a message stanza?
[01:15:48] <HanzZ> well, there should not be only html in message
[01:16:08] <HanzZ> if you're sedning xhtml message, you should include plaintext version too
[01:16:27] <sprsquish> well.. right. but I'm building a library and I want to make it as easy as possible for someone to send a message
[01:17:10] <sprsquish> I could be lib specific about it, but I wanted to know if there was already some standard way to parse html and turn it into plaintext
[01:17:36] <HanzZ> I don't think so
[01:18:33] <sprsquish> okay, thanks!
[01:19:25] <HanzZ> there are some stanrad ways for basic tags, but it's up to you what you do for example with img tag...
[01:19:30] <HanzZ> *standard
[01:20:38] <sprsquish> oh.. that's what I'm looking for. Basically I need to know what I should do with p and br tags. I figure I'll strip most other things
[01:21:07] <HanzZ> I think you can replace br with \n
[01:21:27] <sprsquish> is P \n or \n\n ?
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[01:23:11] <HanzZ> well, I'm doing it like this: if there is only "<p>message</p>", I change it to "message". if there are more paragraphs, I change all </p> to \n, except of the last one (the message should not end with \n)
[01:23:14] <HanzZ> but that's my way :)
[01:24:03] <sprsquish> what're you doing about list elements (ol/ul)?
[01:24:30] <HanzZ> my xhtml editor doesn't support them yet :) so nothing :)
[01:25:59] <sprsquish> okay. we're kicking around the idea of translating it into markdown or textile, some sort of plaintext markup
[01:26:09] <HanzZ> but it could be easy to replace it with " - option one\n"
[01:26:47] <sprsquish> yea, I think commonly it's "* item 1" and "# item 1" for ul and ol respectively
[01:27:00] <HanzZ> I have plugin for texy and textile in my client :) but I don't know how good it works (I'm not using it and I'm not the author)
[01:27:20] <sprsquish> what client are you using?
[01:27:35] <HanzZ> Jabbim
[01:28:55] <HanzZ> but I've had final exams, so I don't have any time for developing last few months
[01:29:35] <sprsquish> ah, cool. I hadn't heard of Jabbim
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[03:20:54] <Mazzachre> If I want a dataform input to be a single valid jid, but specified completly by the usert, how should I go about it?
[03:23:28] <HanzZ> in my transports, I'm checking it by the transport and sending back an error if the input is not correct
[03:23:31] <Kev> jid-single?
[03:23:59] <HanzZ> but I'm not using it for jid, but for the UIN :) so Kev is right :)
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[13:55:07] <bear> http://www.onlineaspect.com/2009/05/25/the-protocols-powering-the-real-time-web/ --> """ but how many developers do you know who have set up an XMPP server before? Right. Me too. """
[13:56:26] darco researches the suitability of EXI [http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/WD-exi-20080919/] for XMPP stuff...
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[13:57:37] <freeworm> [22:44]--- KennyMcCormic вышел(а) из комнаты: QIP Infium: Спокойное общение
Flooder ]:->
[13:57:38] <stpeter> darco: we had some discussions about that a while back, I can find the list archives if you're interested
[13:58:05] <stpeter> freeworm: in the [chat] room?
[13:58:05] <xepbot> A room for general off-topic chat: chat@conference.jabber.org - anyone is welcome!
[13:58:13] <freeworm> stpeter: yes
[13:58:47] <stpeter> freeworm: ok
[13:59:01] <stpeter> bear: clearly HTTP is the one true protocol for everything
[13:59:06] <darco> I'm interested in how EXI could possibly be used as the internal format for very large deployments. Is that the sort of thing that was discussed?
[13:59:20] darco looks in the archives
[13:59:24] <stpeter> darco: not for internal formats
[13:59:43] <stpeter> I can see why we'd want to avoid continued serialization and reserialization
[14:01:06] <Tobias> stpeter: but only because it's already installed everywhere, which in the end doesn't tell you much about the protocol :)
[14:01:37] <darco> stpeter: which mailing list had the discussion?
[14:03:07] <stpeter> darco: I'll find 'em for you
[14:04:00] <stpeter> http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2009-April/021708.html is a possibility
[14:04:15] <stpeter> http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2008-March/018185.html
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[14:05:28] <KennyMcCormic> stpeter: hi there
[14:05:33] <stpeter> darco: http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2008-February/thread.html seems useful
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[14:05:57] <stpeter> and http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2008-March/018186.html
[14:05:58] <stpeter> etc.
[14:06:01] <stpeter> lots of stuff there
[14:06:15] <stpeter> ah, I see that some interesting people have joined this room
[14:06:26] <stpeter> KennyMcCormic / LoveStory can we help you?
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[14:06:53] <KennyMcCormic> stpeter: not really, just saw the flood bot you re searching for
[14:07:02] <KennyMcCormic> stpeter: at jabber.ru
[14:07:06] <stpeter> and our friend kety is here too
[14:07:27] <freeworm> stpeter: ¤kety¤ & LoveStory - flooder too. Shes friend KennyMcCormic
[14:08:04] <KennyMcCormic> stpeter: do you know this guy, why he is calling everybody flooder?
[14:08:31] <KennyMcCormic> freeworm: how r u man?
[14:08:38] <KennyMcCormic> freeworm: do i know u?
[14:09:04] <stpeter> KennyMcCormic: let's discuss this in the [jabber] room because that room is about the jabber.org IM service and this room is for developers
[14:09:16] <stpeter> hmph [jabber] doesn't work?
[14:09:17] <KennyMcCormic> stpeter: sure, moving there
[14:09:29] <¤kety¤> freeworm: Gowk :-)
[14:09:36] <freeworm> fooo
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[15:21:28] <Shaman> is it about jabber development or java ?
[15:21:56] <stpeter> jabber
[15:22:05] <stpeter> I think we also have a java discussion room
[15:22:20] <stpeter> http://logs.jabber.org/java@conference.jabber.org/
[15:22:25] <stpeter> never any discussion there :)
[15:23:20] <Shaman> I see
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[15:30:27] <voffk> stpeter: rooms like this is regularly killed by the bot at jabber.ru %)
[15:33:43] <stpeter> voffk: yeah
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[16:47:41] <mlboutros90> hi
[16:47:41] <mlboutros90> hi
[16:47:41] <mlboutros90> hi
[16:47:41] <mlboutros90> hi
[16:48:03] <stpeter> hi
[16:48:07] <stpeter> can we help you?
[16:49:23] <mlboutros90> yeah
[16:49:47] <stpeter> do you have questions about jabber?
[16:51:28] <mlboutros90> I want know about one server in spanish
[16:51:37] <stpeter> !es
[16:51:38] <xepbot> Puedes hablar en español en jabberes@conf.jabberes.org y consultar tus dudas sobre Jabber
[16:52:02] <stpeter> also http://www.jabber-hispano.org/
[16:52:16] <stpeter> and http://www.jabberes.org/
[16:53:10] <mlboutros90> ño que alivio porque no se mucho ingles
[16:53:11] <mlboutros90> muchas gracias
[16:53:21] <stpeter> :)
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[18:05:50] <ronin2> hI!!
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