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Wednesday, January 2, 2008< ^ >
Kev has set the subject to: Jabber DEVELOPMENT (in English) | http://www.xmpp.org | http://www.jabber.org
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[04:53:42] <ajit> Hi everybody
[04:54:06] <ajit> could anyone tell me how to connect to gmail users
[04:54:08] <ajit> ?
[04:54:23] <Kev> just add them to your roster
[04:54:43] <ajit> ok fine thanx
[04:54:47] <Kev> google talk is part of the jabber network, so you can just add them as users from any other server
[04:55:04] <ajit> thanx
[04:55:12] <ajit> one more question ?
[04:55:21] <ajit> may i?
[04:55:34] <ajit> do u know waqas?
[04:55:53] <Kev> personally? no
[04:56:03] <Kev> but we see him around a lot
[04:56:23] <ajit> wow same here
[04:57:24] <ajit> i have to add the user with the same id or have to add something at the end
[04:57:51] <ajit> like if someone has abc@gmail.com
[04:58:22] <ajit> then in place of gmail.com do i have to use something else.
[04:58:48] <vorner> ajit: why would you have to?
[04:59:26] <ajit> as when we retrieve a roaster through some transport
[04:59:30] <Kev> if someone's jid is abc@gmail.com, then add abc@gmail.com
[04:59:34] <ajit> okkies
[04:59:37] <ajit> fine
[04:59:39] <Kev> there's no transport for google talk
[04:59:44] <Kev> google talk is a Jabber server
[05:00:12] <ajit> got it
[05:00:43] <ajit> let mr try
[05:02:16] <ajit> i am using psi
[05:02:32] <ajit> could u suggest me d way
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[05:03:26] <Kev> choose 'add contact', and put the user's jid in the jid box, type a name for them and press 'add'
[05:03:30] <Kev> that's all there is to it
[05:04:10] <ajit> yeah
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[05:10:29] <ajit> so kev , what's ur favourite thing on jabber
[05:10:34] <ajit> .
[05:11:00] <bbodio> he
[05:11:05] <Kev> my favourite thing?
[05:11:41] <Kev> do you mean my favourite client?
[05:13:58] <vorner> ajit: being you, I wouldn't ask a developer that kind of question, you might regret it ;-)
[05:14:40] <ajit> u all are so devoted to jabber
[05:15:12] <ajit> so i m asking which feature of jabber is most exciting
[05:15:45] <ajit> i am sorry if had any thing wrong
[05:16:03] <ajit> its a dream to contribute to jabber
[05:17:05] <Kev> I wanted an instant messenger which didn't suck, so I installed a jabber client and used that
[05:17:13] <Kev> then I found a client I liked more, and used that instead
[05:17:27] <Kev> then I found some things I wanted to change in the client and changed them
[05:17:34] <Kev> things went from there
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[05:18:04] <ajit> cool\
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[08:11:06] <Thorns> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spsiTo4BAiY
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[16:45:00] <bbodio> any .NET devs
[16:45:23] <bbodio> ?
[16:45:32] <bbodio> what's happening :-(
[16:45:43] <bbodio> nobody like .net
[16:45:51] <MattJ> No comment :)
[16:46:04] <waqas> :P
[16:46:28] <bbodio> why?
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[16:48:04] <MattJ> Because it is like Java
[16:48:09] <MattJ> AND it is from Microsoft
[16:48:17] <MattJ> Which makes it bad on two counts
[16:48:43] <TobiasFar> MattJ: see one2one chat :P
[16:50:03] <TobiasFar> think we should develop a Chat Activity Notification Protocol over MUC for MattJ :P
[16:51:14] <MattJ> :)
[16:54:41] <bbodio> tell me how do you think
[16:55:11] <bbodio> i need your all advice
[16:56:56] <TobiasFar> mostly with my brain...but sometimes i make decisions by dice ;)
[16:57:36] <bbodio> i'm only studyìng, but i know that you're all expirienced so how do you think :
which way of programming is popular and well payed- which way and which language has more perspective than others,
please tell me
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[16:58:36] <bbodio> i dont know what to choose
[16:58:44] <Alex> bbodio: goto monsters.com and look for teh job offers
[16:59:20] <Alex> sorry monster.com
[16:59:31] <bbodio> thats kind of different
[17:01:02] <Alex> no its not, you asked for well payed and perspective
[17:01:15] <bbodio> people say that future is in c++, c#, java and jobr are very good payed,
but as i see people dont like java, the same about c#
[17:01:22] <Alex> and nobody knows which language is popular in 10 or 20 years
[17:02:06] bbodio wants to see the future
[17:02:14] <Alex> bbodio: you talk to the wrong people :D
[17:02:15] <MattJ> The web, I think
[17:02:40] <bbodio> yup,and the web programming
[17:03:05] <Alex> things change, as a programmer you have to learn stuff your whole life
[17:03:05] <bbodio> gotta learn java-script, php, html very well
[17:03:32] <bbodio> gotta learn EVERYTHING
[17:03:36] <Alex> maybe tody its Java or c#, in 5 years it maybe D and who knows what it is in 10 or 20 years
[17:03:40] <MattJ> Learning PHP is basically un-learning everything good about other languages :P
[17:04:03] <bbodio> MattJ: why?
[17:04:05] <Alex> If you are a good programmer you can learn any programming langauge very fast
[17:04:15] <waqas> I'm sure I know what MattJ wants to suggest :)
[17:04:41] <MattJ> bbodio,
http://nothinghappens.net/?p=230
http://www.programmersparadox.com/2007/12/19/php-insanity/
http://www.hardened-php.net/hphp/zend_hash_del_key_or_index_vulnerability.html
http://zestyping.livejournal.com/124503.html
[17:04:54] bbodio wants to make friends with functional languages
[17:05:32] bbodio got scared of haskell and lisp
[17:05:55] <waqas> bbodio: Functional languages (particularly the pure functional variety) are very interesting, but they are not necessarily "popular and well payed".
[17:06:15] <bbodio> tnx for link, i am on phone, ill see the link tommorow
[17:06:48] <waqas> bbodio: Those links are just anti-php propaganda ;)
[17:07:00] <bbodio> waqas: as for me, they are interesting and very logic/abstract in one time
[17:07:09] <Kev> waqas: no, but they do make you a good programmer
[17:07:11] <bbodio> waqas: heh :-)
[17:07:19] <Kev> (functional languages)
[17:07:28] <Alex> i don't agree with this php links
[17:07:38] <Alex> you can write very nice code with PHP
[17:07:38] <waqas> Kev: Yeah, they most certainly do.
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[17:07:59] <Alex> i think the biggest problem of PHP is that it used by many people which are no programmers
[17:08:08] <MattJ> Alex, well, I have yet to see *any* nice PHP code
[17:08:09] <bbodio> » Kev> (functional languages)
the mort important:
'train your brain'
[17:08:18] <Alex> lots of hobby coders which do web programming in their spare time
[17:08:28] <Hawke > like me. :-)
[17:08:40] <Kev> Alex: and very few people who /are/ programmers
[17:08:41] <MattJ> Besides OOP, I don't know exactly what PHP supports as a language that makes it better (ok, equal) to any other language
[17:08:55] <Kev> because they typically use python, or if they're misguided ruby :)
[17:08:57] <bbodio> ya, i have not-programmers php-coders
[17:10:14] <bbodio> but better than any language is ... sleep
[17:10:17] <bbodio> gn!
[17:10:21] <MattJ> gn :)
[17:10:32] <bbodio> tnx for advices!
[17:10:33] <Alex> sleep well
[17:10:54] <Alex> last adive bbodio
[17:11:03] <Alex> look for anotehr job if you wanna make money :D
[17:11:10] <Alex> advice
[17:11:12] <bbodio> MattJ, Alex , TobiasFar , Kev , Hawke , waqas tnx!
[17:11:18] <Kev> nn :)
[17:11:38] <bbodio> » Alex> look for anotehr job if you wanna make money :D
:-D
[17:12:00] <bbodio> bye!
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