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[00:41:41] <Macer> Does anybody use mcabber?
[00:41:52] <Macer> I need to see a /room syntax
[00:41:58] <Macer> To join a muc
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[00:51:35] <Macer> finally
[00:51:36] <Macer> lol
[00:53:13] <Macer> i anybody around?
[00:59:49] <Macer> hello?
[00:59:53] <Macer> is this working?
[01:00:10] <ThurahT> yes, hello. People are probably sleeping.
[01:00:12] <Macer> :-/
[01:00:27] <Macer> oh... sorry. thanks.
[01:00:27] <Macer> just got mcabber going
[01:00:36] <ThurahT> nice
[01:00:38] <Macer> appreciate it :)
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[01:09:04] <ThurahT> looks like a good client.
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[03:24:41] <Macer> i need to make this status window smaller in mcabber
[03:24:53] <Macer> it is totally killing me on my n900
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[04:32:38] <Macer> hm
[04:34:03] <Macer> is there a good list of muc places?
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[04:43:54] <Macer> blah... learning curve on this client is driving me nuts heh
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[05:25:08] <Macer> alright
[05:25:13] <Macer> way better :)
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[05:28:45] <Macer> have to learn how to bookmark these rooms in mcabber
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[05:53:22] <Macer> [00:53:01] Received error packet [forbidden] from <football@conference.jabber.org>
[05:53:34] <Macer> why can't i change the topic when i'm an op?
[06:02:31] <Macer> Received error packet [not-authorized] from <soccer@conference.jabber.org>
[06:02:40] <Macer> uhm
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[06:22:28] <Macer> heh. anybody actually say anything here?
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[06:51:34] <Link Mauve> Macer, you could be interested in poezio too, it’s the CLI client I use and I like it.
[06:51:34] <Link Mauve> I find it a lot more ergonomic than mcabber.
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[06:57:33] <ThurahT> that reminds me, where is louiz?
[06:58:22] <Link Mauve> He thought he was on too much rooms, so he left some.
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[07:04:43] <ThurahT> ah.. I see..
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[07:15:09] <Macer> so what exactly are the rues for bots on jabber.org? i want to make some sports channels and run a stats/scores bot
[07:15:17] <Macer> rules
[07:15:52] <ThurahT> http://jabber.org explains it
[07:17:07] <Macer> ok. i will take a read... sorry i just ran through most of it to get to seeing if i could set up mcabber and mucs
[07:17:21] <Macer> trying to see if i could make it work like irc
[07:17:29] <Macer> or run a jabberd myself as well
[07:17:46] <ThurahT> pretty much anything is possible with xmpp and pubsub
[07:18:26] <Macer> on jabber.org are you talking about the policy?
[07:18:54] <Macer> what about interconnecting mucs across servers?
[07:19:11] <ThurahT> don't know. I can't see anything on that site. It's black on black back ground.
[07:19:42] <Macer> er. no it isn't ;) fix your colors heh
[07:20:07] <ThurahT> my colours are fixed.
[07:20:53] <ThurahT> defining font colour but not bgcolour is a bit weird.
[07:28:50] <ThurahT> daily life as a black background user can be hard sometimes.
[07:32:38] <Macer> i had that problem in kubuntu picking dark themes
[07:32:57] <Macer> dark themes do not agree well... you would think that such a thing would be fixed
[07:33:41] <ThurahT> the right approach for websites would be to not define any colours. or define both font and bg. Not just font. Which makes no sense really.
[07:42:31] <nomadofnorad> ThurahT: You're.... nothing but a black background? :D I wonder if anyone here is a green background or a purple background. :)
[07:44:48] <ThurahT> user
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[11:51:39] <Macer> that chatroom search doesn't really help much heh
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[12:10:42] <erlendsh@jabber.org> hi. Has anyone tried using Jaconda.im with a jabber.org address? I can't seem to get an invitation from the service on my jabber.org address, whereas my gmail works just fine with it. Might there be something I can change in my client (Swift) settings?
[12:24:18] <Macer> are there options to check s2s ssl certs?
[12:24:24] <Macer> erlendsh@jabber.org: maybe that is the problem
[12:25:17] <erlendsh@jabber.org> you mean are there options for that in Swift settings? I'll check, thanks
[12:25:53] <Macer> well. i'm just saying that s2s connections might REQUIRE a valid ssl cert.. i can't say for sure. i've never done it sorry
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[12:28:27] <erlendsh@jabber.org> hmm yeh can't find anything like that. I figure this one's on the Jaconda people. thanks though.
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[18:07:32] <nomadofnorad> hmmmmm.... what is the subtle difference between a Nostradamus and a Neustradomus?
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[20:15:56] <Macer> hello
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[20:16:14] <Macer> hm. that wasn't supposed to be showing the date+time anymore
[20:16:15] <Macer> ugh
[20:16:44] <psa> ?
[20:17:48] <Macer> hm
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[20:18:10] <Macer> maybe that did it
[20:18:24] <Macer> psa: i'm setting up mcabber
[20:18:53] <Macer> which is pretty awesome for a console based jabber client but is a total pain to set up the config file
[20:19:46] <Macer> it would also be interesting if i could set up more than 1 jabber account at a time
[20:19:47] <psa> :)
[20:19:57] <psa> it's old code, not really maintained anymore IIRC
[20:20:13] <Macer> it was the only client my synology had in optware :-/
[20:20:38] <Link Mauve> Macer, have you tried poezio?
[20:20:39] <Macer> and it didn't have irssi-xmpp so this is what i'm stuck with heh.. there was another that was derived from mcabber. can't really remember its name
[20:20:56] <Macer> Link Mauve: No ... just mcabber so far
[20:21:12] <Link Mauve> I find it much easier and powerful than mcabber.
[20:21:19] <Link Mauve> Also, maintained.
[20:21:29] <Macer> hm... let me take a look
[20:21:59] <Macer> looks rather similar
[20:22:05] <Macer> let me see if the synology has it in optware
[20:22:31] <Link Mauve> I doubt it, I know only of ArchLinux and Fedora.
[20:22:37] <Macer> nope :)
[20:22:43] <Macer> maybe i can build it
[20:22:47] <Link Mauve> Because that’s the distributions the two main devs use. ^^
[20:23:00] <Link Mauve> It’s just python with one C module.
[20:23:52] <Macer> hm... i'll see if i can build it on the synology right now.. i'm getting it using git
[20:24:08] <Macer> i doubt it will work
[20:24:34] <Macer> /bin/sh: python3: not found
[20:24:37] <Link Mauve> What is that sinology, and optware?
[20:24:41] <Macer> lol... requires python3
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[20:24:57] <Macer> synology is a nas
[20:25:07] <Link Mauve> Yeah, it’s a modern software built on modern technologies. :p
[20:25:08] <Macer> optware is the gnu based pkg management stuff you can add to it
[20:25:30] <Macer> Link Mauve: I guess.. a lot of people haven't swapped to python3 just yet
[20:25:39] <Macer> don't know why... guess people are set in their ways with 2.x ;)
[20:26:22] <Macer> i am going to build a new server soon anyways.. maybe using freenas
[20:26:58] <Macer> http://www.e-itx.com/e-serv-nas25-x4.html <- using that
[20:27:02] <Link Mauve> I use both, but just because some old stuff isn’t maintained and hasn’t been ported already.
[20:27:23] <Link Mauve> I added python3 support to a few libraries, when I needed to use something they provided.
[20:27:35] <Macer> yeah.. that's what i've seen a lot of people do but i'm scared that for some awkward reason something that reliies on python will suddenly break
[20:27:53] <Macer> when i set up python3
[20:28:02] <Link Mauve> No, they are perfectly isolated.
[20:28:12] <Macer> so i just leave things in a functional state.. i'm not very fond of python to begin with tbh :)
[20:28:18] <Link Mauve> You can even use multiple versions of python2 and python3 at the same time.
[20:28:23] <Macer> or most scripting languages
[20:28:25] <Link Mauve> There is a PEP about that.
[20:28:37] <Macer> tell that to gentoo lol
[20:28:49] <Link Mauve> It’s like Lua 5.1 and 5.2, they can be used in parallel.
[20:28:52] <Macer> i remember gentoo always having emerge break because of itself updating python heh
[20:29:03] <Macer> like pkg management suicide
[20:29:52] <Macer> like i said.. at this point it would honestly just be easier to update my nas to something a bit better
[20:30:06] <Macer> the synology is awful for using as a shell to do anything useful
[20:30:17] <Macer> it has a 1GHz armv5 and 128MB heh
[20:30:25] <Link Mauve> Nice.
[20:30:50] <Macer> it's fine for using it as a dumb nas with a few features turned on.. but i found a lot of the the things i've tried completely destroyed its functionality
[20:31:29] <Link Mauve> poezio might be a bit heavy for it, if you use lots of chatrooms.
[20:31:48] <Macer> i'm sure.. i doubt i could even build it heh
[20:31:58] <Macer> the optware pkgs are so outdated
[20:32:07] <Link Mauve> If you want to try it, make sure you are using Python 3.3, it improved strings footprint by a factor 4.
[20:32:11] <Macer> and building for it using their awkward sdk is like pulling teeth
[20:32:25] <Link Mauve> (ASCII strings.)
[20:32:59] <Macer> sure i'll take a look at it but for now i'll use mcabber for a bit longer just to get a feel for using jabber like irssi
[20:33:37] <Macer> i'm going to order that barebones case some time this week and shove 4x4TB into it
[20:33:49] <Macer> and give the 4x3TB nas to my parents or something heh
[20:34:52] <Macer> thanks for the info... i'll try installing python3 later on the synology and see if i can build it
[20:35:04] <Macer> who knows ? :) maybe it will just......work
[20:37:07] <Link Mauve> You could also try it first elsewhere, just to see if it’s worth the effort.
[20:37:16] <Link Mauve> Hint: it is. :)
[20:43:23] <psa> /me is not really here, I'm scribing the JOSE WG meeting ... BTW :-)
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