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[02:25:11] <wency> 嘿嘿
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[02:41:43] <king.of.kanjarz> salam
[02:42:26] <king.of.kanjarz> pramjot ye har id pe add ka optiion q nahi ata jab main add krna chahta kisi ko?
[02:42:52] <łøνε> kaha
[02:43:14] <łøνε> hello anyone there
[02:43:52] <łøνε> i wanna get information about xml scripts
[02:44:09] <king.of.kanjarz> sab hang bots hain
[02:44:15] <king.of.kanjarz> :-D
[02:44:28] <łøνε> » <king.of.kanjarz> sab hang bots hain shayad nai
[02:44:51] <łøνε> XML
[02:45:14] <łøνε> .
[02:45:32] <łøνε> pvt locked sabki
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[02:49:27] <łøνε> anyone there
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[03:18:30] <łøνε> » <łøνε> i wanna get information about xml scripts
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[05:59:38] <krn.singh> Koi or room hai kya yha :d
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[06:08:07] <krn.singh> Koi zinda hai kya ?
[06:08:21] <krn.singh> :-P
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[10:35:52] <mati> super, mcabber now tells me I am here four times, after changing the nick...
[10:36:01] <mati> (anybody else see that? or is it just my client?
[10:37:55] <Kev> I see you here four times.
[10:45:42] <mati> nice.
[10:46:16] <mati> I just changed the nick of my client, though. works in other rooms.
[10:46:49] <mati> anywho, I found out a few things about jabber.org <--> fsinf.at connection issues
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[10:47:06] <mati> messages from fsinf.at --> jabber.org work, but just not the other way round
[10:47:33] <mati> i.e. granting precense from user@fsinf.at --> user@jabber.org works, but not the other way round.
[10:47:44] <pf> MCabber 0.10.1 (loudmouth-based), and it's the same, i just changed my nick.
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[10:51:41] <Kev> Interesting. I'm not seeing any errors in the logs relating to fsinf.at
[10:52:14] <Kev> I don't suppose this is another ejabberd server having trouble since we updated the cert, is it?
[10:53:33] <mati> Kev, it *is* a ejabberd server.
[10:53:44] <mati> Kev, I am not sure since when this problem existed
[10:53:53] <mati> Kev, so it may be the case - is there a fix for it?
[10:54:28] <Kev> No idea. We've just had lots of reports that ejabberd servers have stopped federating with us since we updated our cert.
[10:54:49] <mati> Kev, you weren't here yesterday when I originally reported this, so I repeat the info: I do have access to another server (jabber.at) that is - as far as I can tell - identically configured and that works flawlessly
[10:55:13] <mati> I mean - root access, of course
[10:55:13] <Kev> Oh, that's interesting.
[10:55:31] <Kev> Same version of ejabberd, same TLS configuration?
[10:55:50] <mati> Kev, same ejabberd-packages
[10:55:58] <Kev> Same [whatever SSL ejabberd uses] packages?
[10:56:09] <Kev> Same erlang packages?
[10:56:16] <Kev> I'm just clutching at straws here.
[10:56:19] <mati> Kev, hmm, I guess no, they are different ubuntu versions
[10:56:49] <Kev> Is the working one the newer one?
[10:57:27] <mati> Kev, yes on the newer one
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[11:05:59] <mati> Kev, I do get an error-stanza back, if that helps!
[11:06:14] <Kev> From your server or from jabber.org, I wonder.
[11:06:16] <Kev> What's the stanza?
[11:06:25] <Kev> remote-server-not-found?
[11:06:48] <mati> Kev, yes, remote-server-not-found
[11:07:05] <Kev> And this is received by your jorg account when trying to send to the ejabberd server?
[11:07:15] <mati> Kev, exactly
[11:07:19] <mati> Kev, here the first line: <message from='mati@fsinf.at' to='matitest@jabber.org/Gajim'
[11:07:28] <mati> (skipping the rest, I guess you know what it looks like)
[11:07:37] <Kev> Hrmph.
[11:07:56] <Kev> Well, that's just what's expected, I think, if we can't get a stream set up to fsinf.at.
[11:08:47] <mati> Kev, ok, so the question is why, right? :-)
[11:09:46] <mati> Kev, I already increased ejabberd logging to maximum and didn't find anything useful in the logs
[11:10:30] <Kev> Right, I'm not getting anything useful in the logs at this end, either.
[11:11:43] <mati> Kev, so what do we do? especially if I'm not the only one with that issue.
[11:12:30] <Kev> I don't know - I'm /assuming/ this is some deployment issue with the ejabberd servers in question (not supporting sha2 hashes in certs, maybe?), but what the fix is I'm not sure - other than maybe upgrading those servers.
[11:14:11] <mati> Kev, hmm
[11:14:24] <mati> Kev, the not-working server is Ubuntu 10.04, the working one is 12.04.
[11:14:32] <mati> They are built using the same source package
[11:15:00] <mati> the ejabberd packages are built using the same source package
[11:15:17] <Kev> So it seems likely it's the platform (ssl/erlang) rather than ejabberd itself.
[11:15:43] <mati> Kev, I guess I'll have to try that :-(
[11:16:26] <Kev> I don't know what else to suggest - the server on jabber.org has been restarted since the issues started, so it's not that it's some magical problem that a restart will solve.
[11:16:56] <mati> Kev, why use sha2 anyway?
[11:17:32] <Kev> No idea, ask Peter. But I guess the counter-question is "Why not use the best cryptography you can?">
[11:18:09] <mati> Kev, true
[11:18:09] <mati> Kev, but right now your better cryptography is pretty useless to me ;-)
[11:18:10] <Kev> I do agree that if it's causing interop issues picking SHA1 may be better.
[11:18:25] <mati> Kev, have you collected info on what distros problematic servers are using?
[11:18:36] <mati> this might help to trace down the issue
[11:18:40] <Kev> No - you're the first person to discover that it's distro-specific :)
[11:19:34] <mati> /me --> lunch
[11:19:38] <Kev> Enjoy.
[11:19:47] <mati> Kev, *may* be distro-specific
[11:19:52] <Kev> Right.
[11:19:55] <mati> Kev, its the only config-difference I can make out
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[11:51:21] <łøνε> i wanna get information about xml scripts
[11:51:42] <Kev> What do you mean "XML scripts"?
[11:51:58] <Kev> If you mean XMPP, start with RFC6120/6121, and then look at http://xmpp.org/extensions/
[11:52:58] <łøνε> my bombus is showing so kind of xml scripts
[11:53:34] <Kev> You should go to whatever the Bombus support venue is to ask about that, then.
[11:54:00] <łøνε> <presence ver="2.7.0 (en)" to="indian_cute@conference.jabber.org/łøνε"><c xmlns="http://jabber.org/protocol/caps" node="Pandion/caps" ver="dcYe/SeIxfEhaGPymh9ufqcJUmY=" hash="sha-1"/><nick xmlns="http://jabber.org/protocol/nick">łøνε</nick><x xmlns="http://jabber.org/protocol/muc"><history maxstanzas="20" maxchars="32768"/></x></presence>
[11:54:13] <łøνε> these scripts
[11:55:08] <łøνε> i wanna get information about these
[11:55:38] <Kev> http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596521271.do http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6120 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6121 http://xmpp.org/extensions.
[11:56:52] <Kev> The last three are free but technical, the first one is non-free but easy to read.
[11:56:55] <Kev> Take your pick.
[11:57:36] <łøνε> thanx
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[12:41:32] <poker-face98> hello :) I have a problem with adding data to kadu. after filling out all the fields (e-mail, name, date of birth), I click apply and close the settings window. But after re-entrance in the account settings there is no longer my data just empty fields. Soryy my english is bad <glupek>
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[17:19:25] <Mati> Kev, back from work. So are there any plans to do anything on the jabber.org side on those connection issues?
[17:28:04] <Kev> I just saw a suggestion on the juser list that the cert may be wrong, I've mailed the admins and hopefully Peter'll have a chance to check at soe point (I know very little about X.509 certs, despite being in a company full of experts).
[17:30:36] <Mati> Kev, oh, I see
[17:43:35] <Mati> Kev, isn't there an XMPP-wiki or something?
[17:43:50] <Kev> http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/ from memory.
[17:44:03] <Mati> it might be good do start a page somewhere about SSL versions with problematic servers and such
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[17:54:35] <psa> ok
[17:54:55] <psa> Mati: when did the problem start on your side?
[17:55:28] <Mati> psa, A user of mine reported the issue
[17:55:37] <Mati> he did "a while back".
[17:55:46] <psa> heh
[17:55:51] <Mati> I'm asking him now if he can tell me when he first noticed
[17:55:53] <psa> 2 months ago, 10 days ago?
[17:55:56] <psa> ok thanks
[17:56:04] <psa> in any case, I need to fix this cert issue
[17:56:07] <psa> so I'll do that now
[18:00:53] <Mati> psa, very good! ;-)
[18:01:18] <psa> Mati: sorry about that -- I made a bad decision when tired about sha-2 vs. sha-1
[18:01:45] <Mati> psa, Kev was right in principle: choose the best encryption available
[18:02:14] <psa> yeah, it seemed like a good idea at the time :)
[18:02:27] <Mati> and since nobody was aware of any issues... (and we're still not totally sure it *is* the issue?)
[18:02:37] <psa> Mati: we'll find out soon :)
[18:02:57] <Mati> psa, that user of mine says he received the last message from a jabber.org user on 15.12.2012
[18:03:18] <psa> Mati: yes, that's around the time of installing the new cert
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[18:06:03] <psa> /me follows the README.certs he wrote in December so he remembers what he's doing this time ;-)
[18:40:15] <Mati> psa, so, when will you restart the server? :-)
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[19:36:50] <psa> Mati: StartSSL isn't working very well for me right now so I don't have a new cert yet :(
[19:38:14] <Mati> psa, StartSSL generally hasn't been working very good recently
[19:38:59] <psa> Mati: not sure why, it used to be great
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[19:45:22] <psa> I blame all the technologies that now require SSL :)
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[19:51:24] <PaulFertser> TLSA ftw?
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[19:53:50] <••.๓..ค..Ŧ..เ.ค.••> say .
[19:53:51] <desibot> ••.๓..ค..Ŧ..เ.ค.••: insufficient privileges
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[19:54:34] <••.๓..ค..Ŧ..เ.ค.••> say .
[19:54:35] <desibot> ••.๓..ค..Ŧ..เ.ค.••: insufficient privileges
[19:55:08] <Kev_> Kindly stop that.
[19:55:21] <••.๓..ค..Ŧ..เ.ค.••> ok
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[19:55:44] <←η→> Kev_: making bot for auto chat:-)
[19:55:56] <Kev_> That's nice, but you don't need to do it here.
[19:56:21] <←η→> Kev_: k bro
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[19:56:32] <←η→> Frm where u r'
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[19:57:33] <PaulFertser> From where people know how to spell and to use grammar :/
[19:58:29] <←η→> PaulFertser: i am from nimbuzz:-)
[19:58:51] <←η→> Using short letter for chat
[19:59:19] <←η→> Be right back
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[20:05:52] <PaulFertser> That's a nice song he cites: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HueKD1d0FA
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