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[07:14:04] <nomadofnorad> testing
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[08:41:50] <a.nicols@jabber.lancs.ac.uk> I'm trying to diagnose some problems described at https://tracker.moodle.org/browse/MDLSITE-2062 - unable to connect to a conference on conference.moodle.org from a jabber.org account. It's probably a problem at the server end, but I just wanted to make sure that there's nothing to be aware of on the jabber.org end that we should be aware of.
[08:53:27] <Kev> They seem to be running ejabberd.
[08:53:50] <Kev> As far as we can tell there's a bug in some deployments of ejabberd. It seems to be an issue with some dependent package, rather than in the ejabberd package itself.
[08:54:11] <Kev> e.g. ejabberd deployed on Ubuntu 10.04 doesn't work while upgrading that same system to 12.04 fixes it.
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[08:54:59] <a.nicols@jabber.lancs.ac.uk> Ah - that's useful to know. Do you have a link to the the issue or any more information I can pass on? (I don't work for moodle.org)
[08:55:29] <Kev> (This is since jabber.org installed a new cert, so I guess it's an old TLS lib somewhere that doesn't support the SHA2 signatures or something)
[08:55:57] <a.nicols@jabber.lancs.ac.uk> okay thanks - that's really helpful
[08:56:05] <Kev> We try.
[08:56:37] <Kev> Not that this needs to be the issue in question, of course.
[08:57:00] <a.nicols@jabber.lancs.ac.uk> I assume that the new cert went live on the 17th December (since that's its date)
[08:57:09] <a.nicols@jabber.lancs.ac.uk> Which is about the time we started seeing our issues
[08:57:13] <Kev> Oh.
[08:57:14] <Kev> Hmm.
[08:57:20] <Kev> I'm not seeing any SRV set up.
[08:57:47] <Kev> Ah, but there's an A record, OK.
[08:58:25] <a.nicols@jabber.lancs.ac.uk> There are SRVs on moodle.org, but not conference.moodle.org
[08:58:46] <Kev> Yes. It's conference.moodle.org that will get connected to, but there's an A record there that seems to point in the right direction.
[09:00:20] <Kev> S2S seems to work fine from my server to both moodle and conference.moodle, so I'm suspecting it's the ejabberd issue, but I don't know.
[09:00:20] <a.nicols@jabber.lancs.ac.uk> Well thanks Kev. I'll pass that on and hopefully we can get it resolved!
[09:00:37] <Kev> The comments at the link you provided seem heavily confused.
[09:01:10] <Kev> People using talk.moodle.org suggests they don't really understand what's going on.
[09:02:21] <Kev> But anyway.
[09:03:00] <a.nicols@jabber.lancs.ac.uk> heh
[09:03:20] <a.nicols@jabber.lancs.ac.uk> I was just doing tests as requested ;0
[09:28:39] <a.nicols@jabber.lancs.ac.uk> Kev: I wonder whether ejabberd on Ubuntu 10.04 is affected because it depends on version 0.9.8k of openssl. If you take a look at http://www.openssl.org/news/changelog.html and search for the 0.9.8n changes, the second listed change is: *) Add SHA2 algorithms to SSL_library_init(). SHA2 is becoming far more common in certificates and some applications which only call SSL_library_init and not OpenSSL_add_all_algorithms() will fail. [Steve Henson]
[09:29:34] <a.nicols@jabber.lancs.ac.uk> Ubuntu 12.04 depends on openssl 1.0.1 which already has that patch
[09:29:59] <Kev> Ah, so it suggests a slight mis-use of the API, and openssl patched around it?
[09:30:12] <Kev> I admit to knowing very very little about the OpenSSL API.
[09:31:05] <a.nicols@jabber.lancs.ac.uk> I don't know much about it myself - I'm just about to browse through the ejabberd source to see whether it's just calling init as the changelog suggests
[09:31:15] <a.nicols@jabber.lancs.ac.uk> But yes - a potential misuse of the API
[09:31:38] <a.nicols@jabber.lancs.ac.uk> Debian isn't affected either btw - 0.9.8o is in squeeze (http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libssl0.9.8)
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[09:42:33] <a.nicols@jabber.lancs.ac.uk> Kev: Yup - the version of ejabberd in 10.04 calls OpenSSSL_add_ssl_algorithms which doesn't include SHA2 (http://linux.die.net/man/3/openssl_add_ssl_algorithms). Thanks for the pointers
[09:43:21] <Kev> Marvellous, thanks for letting me know.
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[13:43:58] <dan_24> Hello, are there any jabber.org admins? I have problem with communication between our company jabber and jabber.org few last weeks..
[13:44:45] <Kev> Is your company server running ejabberd on an old OS?
[13:45:22] <dan_24> ejabberd. yes, old.., maybe COS 5.5
[13:45:42] <dan_24> i think it is TLS related problem
[13:45:57] <dan_24> do you have any hints?
[13:46:10] <dan_24> with ejabberd & old OS?
[13:46:11] <Kev> Yes, upgrade the OS.
[13:46:31] <dan_24> right :)
[13:46:53] <dan_24> and where is exactly problem?
[13:47:10] <Kev> It seems to be a problem between ejabberd and old OpenSSLs where it doesn't support all the necessary hashes. Other people have been running e.g. Ubuntu 10.04, have upgraded to 12.04 keeping the ejabberd packages the same and it's worked fine instantly.
[13:47:38] <Kev> It wasn't clear to me if it was ejabberd's fault for not asking OpenSSL to initialise all the hashes, or OpenSSL's for not doing it by default.
[13:47:57] <dan_24> ok, thanks a lot.
[13:48:31] <Kev> NP.
[13:48:41] <dan_24> On which software is jabber.org running?
[13:48:47] <Kev> Isode M-Link.
[13:49:11] <dan_24> thank you, by
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[14:29:16] <akuckartz> I also had lots of connection problems with jabber.org recently.
[14:31:30] <Alex> the server is under very high load. We have a new powerful machine but need to do the migration, then it will be much better again
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[16:13:15] <Soulmate> stpeter: Belated Merry Christmas and happy new year to you
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[16:15:10] <stpeter> Soulmate: likewise!
[16:15:21] <Soulmate> Thanks
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[20:03:06] <walaa94> @
[20:03:15] <walaa94> walaa94:
[20:03:32] <walaa94> :-)
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[22:06:12] <almared> مرحبا
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