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[00:43:18] <jds> Heh
[00:43:25] <jds> Looks like my question got asked for me :)
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[00:44:25] <jds> Gotta love it when Google makes things subtly incompatible
[00:44:47] <jds> "We support XMPP*! *Except most of the JEPs aren't supported."
[00:45:35] <jds> "We support federation* on XMPP! *Except when we cut off support on jabber.org occasionally."
[00:46:13] <jds> "We support file transfer* and VoIP* on XMPP! *Using our own non-standard implementation. No clients other than GTalk support it."
[00:46:15] <jds> /me grumbles
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[08:36:21] <borissh> Hi, for the last two days there is a problem with gmail.com <--> jabber.org connection I can't see gmail buddies
[08:38:05] <borissh> any Ideas what can be done in the mean time ?
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[08:56:26] <borissh> sorry had been kicked out of the network, any ideas about the Gmail issue ?
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[09:26:44] <sengalarul> Hai:-)
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[09:42:35] <borissh> Kev, was the answer for me ? (about the gmail unable to make mucs) ?
[09:56:33] <Kev> No, you're using a jabber.org account.
[09:56:53] <Kev> The gmail issue is likely on the Google side, it usually is.
[09:59:34] <Darlan> Why do people use Gmail accounts? Use native Jabber/XMPP servers.
[09:59:58] <Kev> Gmail /is/ a native XMPP server.
[10:00:41] <Darlan> It seems it has its own special additions that prevent from it to look like such server.
[10:01:38] <borissh> Kev, :-( so I can't reach any GMail user untill Gmail fix it ?
[10:01:47] <Kev> borissh: Usually these things come and go.
[10:02:56] <borissh> Darlan, Gmail is also inserted into Corps (Google is the new Microsoft) - so many move all their IM services to google (with the email and all other options)
[10:03:38] <Kev> I've had a quick glance at the logs, and while I've not looked enough to be sure, it looks like gmail.com isn't trying to federate with us at the moment.
[10:04:25] <Kev> Looks like we're trying to connect to it, and it's not trying dialback on us and it then closes the stream. So we try again, and the same happens.
[10:04:52] <Darlan> I go the other side so they will not get my vote/voice to legitimize special standards. http://identi.ca/group/googlefree
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[10:57:03] <افتار> ف
[10:57:17] <افتار> بدي ليميل عهل السرررف
[10:58:46] <افتار> Emile jabber.org *help*
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[10:59:36] <افتار> » افتار> Emile jabber.org *help*
[10:59:38] <Kev> With what do you need help?
[10:59:39] <افتار> » افتار> Emile jabber.org *help*
[11:01:22] <افتار> Emile serif jabber.org
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[14:06:56] <yiannist> About that Jabber.org/Gmail problem (problem noticed btw), isn't it strange that it only affects jabber.org and not some other instance (say, jabber.ccc.de for example)?
[14:07:51] <Kev> yiannist: Matt was saying how it's also affecting other servers he's involved with. It's not all servers, but it's not just jabber.org, either.
[14:08:23] <yiannist> Kev: I see! I guess we should just wait for Google guys to take some action...
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[14:25:41] <aRyo> yiannist: what kind of action?
[14:26:34] <yiannist> aRyo: Not sure, maybe some DNS issue? whatever broke the connectivity of the jabber <-> gmail servers :)
[14:27:28] <aRyo> ah i see
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[23:05:08] <bgx90> Hello, I some need help figuring out jabber.org/echo. I just started using jabber with pidgin and to verify that my account was working I tried sending a message to jabber.org/echo. I see my message, but echo does not send me anything. I was under the impression that echo is supposed to send a copy of your message back to you. Am I misunderstanding something or have I possibly set up something incorrectly?
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[23:32:10] <LookingForHelp> Thank you for whoever turned on the room history.. :) Don't have to ask about the gmail problem. Kept checking the twitter and identca for a notice that is was broken again
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