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[07:45:00] <monroe61761> Hi
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[13:37:33] <hayes57633> hi
[13:38:10] <hayes57633> Why do i have hard time log into jabber for sometimes?
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[14:01:31] <Aviator> ThurahT: hello
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[14:02:03] <Aviator> ThurahT: Is it possible to apply jabber on website?
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[14:02:19] <Aviator> ThurahT: As ... Real time chatting
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[16:24:54] <gapretorius\40jabber.org> hi
[16:24:56] <gapretorius\40jabber.org> anyone on?
[16:27:08] <psa> hi
[16:27:12] <psa> can we help you?
[16:27:51] <gapretorius\40jabber.org> hi. Have a question about jabber (just registered). This is the place to ask? (probably the ultimate question)
[16:27:59] <gapretorius\40jabber.org> ultimate noob question
[16:28:25] <psa> sure, ask away!
[16:29:28] <gapretorius\40jabber.org> well i just registed, then using Empathy (on Ubuntu) I added the account (using jabber.org as my server), logged in.. which went fine. Then tried joining this room (room being jabber, server being conference.jabber.org) and got disconnected
[16:29:36] <gapretorius\40jabber.org> my gmail account was logged out instantly as well
[16:30:14] <gapretorius\40jabber.org> i realize that gmail uses the protocol as well, i am just a bit confused as to how servers (or different protocol implementers like Gmail) are connected
[16:30:36] <Kev> Servers are connected a bit like email servers are.
[16:31:11] <Kev> So everything is local until you want to send a message to another service, at which point it fires up a connection to that server and sends the message across for it to deal with.
[16:31:23] <gapretorius\40jabber.org> i'm currently using speeqe to connect because i keep getting disconnected via Empathy (also I can't see any users in this room other than treebilou and jean.parpaillon (and now Z_God too)
[16:31:30] <gapretorius\40jabber.org> Kev: ah okay
[16:31:42] <gapretorius\40jabber.org> local to the server that I've logged into you mean?
[16:32:05] <Kev> Yes.
[16:32:25] <gapretorius\40jabber.org> see then i tried setting the login server to conference.jabber.org but couldn't make a connection at all
[16:33:01] <gapretorius\40jabber.org> tried listing rooms (again using Empathy) for server conference.jabber.org and got a list of rooms, but jabber.org appears to have none. which servers are you guys currently using?
[16:34:00] <Kev> You don't connect to conference.jabber.org.
[16:34:07] <Kev> You connect to the server your account's on.
[16:34:38] <Kev> Like email - if you have an account @gmail and want to send to @hotmail, you don't login to @hotmail. You login to @gmail and tell it to send a message to @hotmail, and the server sorts out it getting where it needs to go.
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[16:36:50] <gapretorius@jabber.org> test
[16:36:56] <Kev> .
[16:36:59] <gapretorius@jabber.org> got in via Empathy
[16:37:18] <gapretorius@jabber.org> thanks Kev
[16:37:25] <gapretorius@jabber.org> for the explanation
[16:37:48] <gapretorius@jabber.org> can actually see everyone now
[16:37:57] <Kev> Jolly good.
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[17:43:32] <ThurahT> Aviator: Yes, that is possible. Not sure what software to use though. I have never dealt with those things
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[18:29:47] <Neustradamus> about logs, there are double... http://logs.jabber.org/ and http://logs.jabber.org/old/ and http://logs.jabber.org/new/ too
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[18:56:21] <nirgal> Hello. I have some trouble configuring my jabberd14 to use postgres. I'm using Debian stable. I created the database and users, I changed my jabber.xml file to use postgres in what I believe is the way described in xdb_postgresql.xml. But I always get errors "Unable to deliver, destination unknown", and postgres logs shows "could not receive data from client: Connection reset by peer". Is there a full exemple file somewhere?
[19:19:28] <nirgal> I found /etc/jabber/jabber.xml.dist with good example :)
[19:19:58] <ThurahT> great
[19:20:26] <ThurahT> because I didn't quite follow you there,
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[20:33:00] <pawan.neupane> is there a way to resolve the constant Resource Conflict that I've been encountering whenever trying to connect to Facebook Transport?
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[20:34:15] <Pubuntu> Pawan
[20:34:39] <Pubuntu> 'Pawan'
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[20:53:46] <psa> Pubuntu: I think you need to ask the folks at Facebook -- their XMPP implementation is known to be incomplete and buggy
[20:54:36] <Pubuntu> OK
[20:55:41] <psa> in general, you should be able to log in with multiple resources, but they might not support that feature
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[21:08:08] <Pubuntu> I've filed a bug report and am hoping to get their reply.
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[21:27:01] <ThurahT> did the server dive?
[21:29:32] <ThurahT> weird thing is I cannot join this muc with any other account.
[21:31:27] <stpeter> ThurahT: yes, it was restarted
[21:32:32] <ThurahT> it usually get restarted around this time?
[21:33:00] <stpeter> I don't think there's a regular schedule -- Kev noticed that it was swapping memory so decided to restart it
[21:34:12] <ThurahT> ok. I'll need to restart as well. : ) gnight all
[21:35:09] <stpeter> GN!
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[21:46:12] <stpeter> the king is back!
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[22:23:46] <almkahal> ص
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[22:24:16] <almkahal> هاي
[22:27:12] <stpeter> almkahal: can we help you?
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[22:29:26] <stpeter> it seems not
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[22:51:04] <garfield63357> total newbie here. just started an account, but iChat doesn't seem to be able to connect using it. can anyone help?
[22:51:19] <stpeter> hmm
[22:51:35] <stpeter> what version of Mac OS are you running?
[22:51:49] <garfield63357> 10.6.8
[22:51:52] <stpeter> what is the username for the account you created?
[22:52:01] <garfield63357> tmprgr
[22:52:24] <stpeter> ok let me log into the server and check a few things -- please stand by :)
[22:52:33] <garfield63357> TX!
[22:54:04] <garfield63357> iChat is 5.0.3 (745) if that matters.
[22:54:11] <stpeter> ok thanks
[22:54:49] <stpeter> this might take a few minutes
[22:55:20] <garfield63357> no problem. really appreciate your effort :o)
[22:55:37] <stpeter> /me goes back to multitasking while a process runs on the server
[22:58:28] <stpeter> garfield63357: did you send me email earlier today?
[22:58:48] <garfield63357> nope
[22:58:52] <stpeter> ok
[23:00:06] <stpeter> I received an email from someone else experiencing iChat troubles, but it might simply be coincidence
[23:00:13] <stpeter> I receieve a lot of email :)
[23:00:57] <stpeter> garfield63357: I don't see an obvious problems with the account you created
[23:01:57] <stpeter> wow I'm running an old version of iChat on my machine (4.0.9)
[23:02:25] <stpeter> but I'm still on 10.5.8 :)
[23:03:04] <garfield63357> must be my stupid mistake somehow. server: jabber.og, port: 5223, use SSL checked. dunno what that means but you must?
[23:05:18] <stpeter> ok I just tested it for you and it seems to be fine
[23:05:29] <garfield63357> omg! og instead of org. toldja it was stupid! i'm in now :oD thanks for your kindness though.
[23:05:35] <stpeter> please don't choose port 5223, that's unnecessary
[23:05:44] <stpeter> haha
[23:05:48] <stpeter> well, that'll do it
[23:06:16] <stpeter> we support upgrade to secure connections on port 5222 and might do away with port 5223 eventually (just so you know)
[23:06:39] <stpeter> /me goes back to reviewing https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dime-rfc3588bis/ :)
[23:07:01] <garfield63357> ok, i'll see if i can change that. thanks again.
[23:07:24] <stpeter> no reason to change it immediately, but "use SSL" is good :)
[23:07:54] <stpeter> well
[23:08:08] <stpeter> what's important is "Warn before password is sent insecurely"
[23:08:47] <stpeter> I should ping the iChat team about the "Server Settings" interface because it's a bit misleading
[23:09:09] <stpeter> anyway, that's not your concern :)
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[23:40:56] <nirgal> Hi. I'm looking to forbid unencrypted client connection in jabberd14. Is there a way to do that?
[23:42:29] <nirgal> Something like <ip port="5222" tls="force"/>
[23:47:16] <stpeter> hmm
[23:47:26] <stpeter> I admit that I have not run jabberd14 in a long time
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[23:48:43] <stpeter> there should be such a setting, but I don't recall what it is
[23:49:04] <nirgal> I can only see it for s2s
[23:49:16] <stpeter> strange
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[23:49:33] <stpeter> usually people do force-tls more often on c2s
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