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[16:16:12] <wjt> hey folks
[16:16:31] <Kev> Evening.
[16:16:34] <wjt> are there any trustworthy hosted XMPP services which aren't Google that private individuals can realistically use?
[16:16:59] <wjt> A friend would like to stop running his own server; I offered him the use of mine but he wants to pay someone he can scream at when it goes wrong
[16:17:15] <Kev> It depends entirely how you define 'trustworthy', I imagine.
[16:17:37] <Kev> I think Flosoft do something (I don't think it's paid), Process One do something (Which is paid, I think).
[16:17:53] <stpeter> migri hosts servers
[16:18:28] <stpeter> he's an XSF member (as is Florian and some P1 folks) so one would hope we can poke them if they do something really bad :)
[16:19:07] <stpeter> http://www.i-pobox.net/ is his site
[16:19:56] <wjt> great, thanks
[16:20:23] <stpeter> Florian's service is at http://flosoft.biz I think
[16:21:05] <wjt> yeah, i found it at http://flosoft.biz/products/jabber/domains/
[16:21:09] <stpeter> ok
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[16:32:02] <Fabian> wjt, jabber.ccc.de (from the Chaos Computer Club in Germany)
[16:32:40] <Fabian> https://web.jabber.ccc.de/
[16:33:14] <wjt> ccc.de has the unique property that their website has an “english” link which takes me to the exact same content in german, but with the navigation links in English :)
[16:33:46] <wjt> Fabian: do they let you use your own domain?
[16:34:44] <Fabian> öhm no! you wanna have a service then pay for ;) you wanna have free, use it as it is :)
[16:35:21] <wjt> heh
[16:35:30] <Fabian> schokokeks.org gives you a jabber server + webhosting and so on for 8€/month
[16:35:54] <wjt> he's basically offloading everything he can to hosted services, but ideally free ones (e.g. github: they're free, but they're gonna take care to not delete his data)
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[16:44:48] <Florob> "Why would you ever need ftp" - "To use get more storage space from the php script I have on the other free web-hoster of course"
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[21:47:31] <Tobias> there already is a XEP for file transfer thumbnails, right?
[21:47:38] <Tobias> !xep thumbnail
[21:47:51] <Tobias> @xep thumbnail
[21:48:03] <darkrain_> (14:47:46) HAL: darkrain: XEP-0264: File Transfer Thumbnails is Standards Track (Deferred, 2009-04-27) See: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0264.html
[22:16:53] <louiz’> Oh Deferred :(
[22:19:11] <Tobias> darkrain: see..everybody imagines something hugely bad under 'deferred' :)
[22:19:42] <louiz’> Indeed
[22:19:55] <darkrain_> Complain to MattJ. He's listed as the owner of the room. :)
[22:19:55] <louiz’> And that’s written in RED !!!
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[22:31:53] <Florob> /me puts Tobias in charge of updating the XEP
[22:32:18] <Tobias> /me cheerfully ignores that :D
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