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[01:12:13] <Soulmate> :lol:
[01:12:23] <Soulmate> Great
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[01:18:14] <Soulmate> welcome back.:-)
[01:18:53] <Soulmate> YETI: good afternoon
[01:19:28] <YETI> Soulmate: Good afternoon! :)
[01:19:43] <Soulmate> how're you
[01:20:16] <YETI> I am excellent! And you?
[01:20:22] <Soulmate> its noon there too?
[01:20:31] <Soulmate> Fine thanks
[01:20:42] <YETI> ^)
[01:21:01] <Soulmate> whats that symbol
[01:21:20] <Soulmate> :THUMBS UP:
[01:21:29] <Soulmate> no maybe
[01:21:49] <YETI> Smilie)
[01:21:57] <Soulmate> oh
[01:22:02] <Soulmate> :-)
[01:22:43] <Soulmate> what time is it at your place
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[01:23:53] <YETI> At us today presidential elections)) 10:26
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[01:27:18] <Soulmate> Which country
[01:27:35] <YETI> in Russia
[01:28:03] <Soulmate> oh
[01:28:09] <Soulmate> its today?
[01:28:25] <YETI> Yes :
[01:28:30] <YETI> :)
[01:28:34] <Soulmate> Did saw the glimpses in paper
[01:28:41] <Soulmate> didn't realise
[01:29:03] <Soulmate> saw a photo with doll within doll
[01:29:22] <Soulmate> Putin and forgot who was
[01:29:57] <YETI> There can be Medvedev
[01:30:08] <Soulmate> ok
[01:30:17] <YETI> :)
[01:30:25] <Soulmate> what is doll within doll called
[01:31:25] <YETI> Doll? To tell the truth, I hardly understand you. My English is bad(
[01:32:14] <Soulmate> hmmm
[01:36:57] <YETI> Mm... It is interesting, as through Jabber it is possible to read RSS. Yesterday has found some transports, but nothing has turned out
[01:37:30] <Soulmate> Brb. Got to go
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[01:38:04] <Atajka> Hi :)
[01:38:18] <YETI> Mm.. What means "Brb"? :)
[01:38:23] <YETI> Hello! ))
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[01:42:04] <amsarini> Hi
[01:42:13] <YETI> amsarini: Hi
[01:42:27] <amsarini> How you doing
[01:43:48] <amsarini> Hello
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[02:04:12] <mjeiran> Hi
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[02:04:25] <mjeiran> Hi
[02:05:11] <mjeiran> Id anybody here is on the n800?
[02:05:47] <mjeiran> :)
[02:06:01] <mjeiran> Ah come on
[02:06:29] <mjeiran> Nothing no replay?
[02:07:16] <mjeiran> Oh man yh
[02:07:22] <mjeiran> Oh man that sucks so bad
[02:08:24] <mjeiran> hello
[02:09:12] <mjeiran> Okay
[02:10:12] <mjeiran> So nothing
[02:11:08] <mjeiran> you don't want tO say any thing about it?
[02:12:12] <mjeiran> come On guys I'm wrting here
[02:13:06] <mjeiran> go home and try to sleep
[02:14:15] <mjeiran> damn it who am l witing tO
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[03:41:57] <DeSnajpa_VIJ> hi
[03:42:36] <DeSnajpa_VIJ> n800? nokia changed numeration? ;>
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[03:46:04] <Soulmate> Hmmm
[03:46:12] <MattJ> DeSnajpa_VIJ, they aren't phones, they are 'internet tablets'
[03:46:25] <DeSnajpa_VIJ> even better ;]
[03:46:29] <Soulmate> what's that
[03:46:47] <MattJ> They are just handheld devices with wi-fi, running Linux
[03:47:15] <Soulmate> Phones with linux
[03:47:20] <MattJ> No, not phones
[03:47:21] <MattJ> :)
[03:47:32] <Soulmate> Ok
[03:47:53] <Soulmate> by the way where were you all this time
[03:48:11] <DeSnajpa_VIJ> sleeping ;]
[03:48:23] <Soulmate> :lol:
[03:48:37] <Soulmate> he slept too long than
[03:48:53] <DeSnajpa_VIJ> noo, just 9 hours ;p
[03:49:22] <Soulmate> but wizard said he was away for more than that
[03:51:21] <Soulmate> DeSnajpa_VIJ: tongue twister nick
[03:52:07] <DeSnajpa_VIJ> yeah
[03:53:02] <Soulmate> what was the inspiration behind it.:-)
[03:53:59] <Soulmate> xmpp:-)
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[04:52:02] <Tilo> !ger
[04:52:27] <DeSnajpa_VIJ> !de
[04:52:27] <HAL > de? german@conference.jabber.org
[04:53:41] <Lastwebpage> always empty
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[04:54:12] <MattJ> Lastwebpage, well you're not in it :)
[04:54:31] <MattJ> Everyone goes there and thinks "Empty :(" and leaves
[04:54:34] <Lastwebpage> why? For "ASL please!" ? :D
[04:55:26] <MattJ> .
[04:55:45] <Lastwebpage> ok, I enable the room in my bookmarks again
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[07:27:08] <niekie> !nl
[07:27:08] <HAL > Voor Nederlandse chat is de volgende conferentie-ruimte beschikbaar: dutch-chat@conference.jabber.org
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[07:43:32] <juhana> hey, how to publish a presence state of some entity which can't establish a XMPP-session?
Let's say I would like to publish the presence of my email address?
[07:44:51] <juhana> with SIMPLE i can always publish a PIDF document that contains a presence information of email for example. but is it possible in xmpp and how?
[07:48:58] <niekie> juhana, you might want to try jdev@conference.jabber.org :-)
[07:49:26] <juhana> thanks niekie :)
[07:49:44] <niekie> No problem :-)
[07:50:14] <niekie> That channel contains the real developers, here are mostly users :-)
[07:50:34] <niekie> (and some developer types also like to hang around here, hehe)
[07:50:52] <niekie> Though mostly you'll have the most luck in jdev.
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[10:22:09] <Musi786> Hi
[10:24:53] <Musi786> Hi i m musi here
[10:25:05] <DeSnajpa_VIJ> hi hi
[10:25:32] <Musi786> How r u
[10:25:53] <Musi786> How r u
[10:26:21] <HAL > For all of our talkonaut friends.. talkonaut@conference.jabber.org
[10:26:45] <Solarius> MattJ: :D
[10:26:50] <Solarius> Musi786: hi there!
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[10:27:07] <Musi786> Ya tell
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[10:27:21] <Solarius> Musi786: i would recommend [chat] room for you ;)
[10:27:30] Solarius stares MattJ
[10:27:35] <Solarius> !chat
[10:27:35] <HAL > A room for general off-topic chat: chat@conference.jabber.org - anyone is welcome!
[10:27:38] <Solarius> That one ;)
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[10:28:15] <MattJ> !reload
[10:28:16] <HAL > Reloaded ok
[10:28:34] <Soulmate> Why was that
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[10:28:38] <MattJ> Ok, maybe I would like to mention [chat] in the middle of a sentence
[10:28:39] <HAL > A room for general off-topic chat: chat@conference.jabber.org - anyone is welcome!
[10:28:48] Solarius bows MattJ :)
[10:28:53] <MattJ> That took a lot of work
[10:28:59] <MattJ> The deletion of one character ^^
[10:29:00] <Solarius> Almost 2 mins, right?;)
[10:29:04] <Solarius> heh :)
[10:29:08] <Soulmate> Why you had to reload
[10:29:20] <MattJ> To tell HAL to reload the changes I made to his code
[10:29:30] <Soulmate> ok
[10:30:50] <DeSnajpa_VIJ> thats possible with C(++)?
[10:31:00] <MattJ> DeSnajpa_VIJ, no, with Lua
[10:31:04] <DeSnajpa_VIJ> ah
[10:31:21] <Solarius> Well, that is possible in cee also (see Bernstein chaining)
[10:31:53] <MattJ> !save function urlencode(s) return s and (s:gsub("[^%w]", function (c) return string.format("%%%x", c:byte()); end)); end
[10:31:54] <HAL > Saved.
[10:32:02] <MattJ> !urlencode <>&*(£
[10:32:02] <HAL > Error: attempt to call field 'format' (a nil value)
[10:32:18] <DeSnajpa_VIJ> !urlencode http://someurl.com/
[10:32:19] <HAL > Error: attempt to call field 'format' (a nil value)
[10:32:39] <MattJ> !do type(string)
[10:32:39] <HAL > Result: table
[10:32:41] <Soulmate> Complex.:-)
[10:32:47] <MattJ> !save string.format = format
[10:32:47] <HAL > Saved.
[10:32:50] <MattJ> !urlencode <>&*(£
[10:32:51] <HAL > %3c%3e%26%2a%28%c2%a3
[10:33:06] <DeSnajpa_VIJ> !urlencode abc
[10:33:06] <HAL > abc
[10:33:16] <Solarius> DeSnajpa_VIJ: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_loading
[10:33:24] <DeSnajpa_VIJ> Solarius, i saw a minute ago ;p
[10:34:04] <MattJ> !save google = function (q) return "http://google.com/search?q="..urlencode(q).." (I recommend Firefox 3.0)"; end
[10:34:04] <HAL > Saved.
[10:34:09] <MattJ> !google finland
[10:34:09] <HAL > http://google.com/search?q=finland (I recommend Firefox 3.0)
[10:34:19] <Solarius> MattJ: Now that works also \o/
[10:34:26] <Solarius> MattJ: thank you :)
[10:34:29] <MattJ> np
[10:34:30] <Solarius> !google something
[10:34:31] <HAL > http://google.com/search?q=something (I recommend Firefox 3.0) Bork bork bork!
[10:34:34] <Soulmate> :-)
[10:34:40] <DeSnajpa_VIJ> !google ąśð¹²³
[10:34:40] <HAL > http://google.com/search?q=%c4%85%c5%9b%c3%b0%c2%b9%c2%b2%c2%b3 (I recommend Firefox 3.0)
[10:34:44] <DeSnajpa_VIJ> yeah
[10:35:01] <Soulmate> :-D
[10:36:15] <MattJ> !google
[10:36:15] <HAL > Error: attempt to concatenate a nil value
[10:36:28] <MattJ> !save google = function (q) return "http://google.com/search?q="..urlencode(q or "").." (I recommend Firefox 3.0)"; end
[10:36:28] <HAL > Saved.
[10:36:29] <MattJ> !google
[10:36:30] <HAL > http://google.com/search?q= (I recommend Firefox 3.0)
[10:36:58] <Soulmate> hmmm
[10:37:28] <Soulmate> brief description would've been good too
[10:37:34] <MattJ> Nope :)
[10:37:49] <Soulmate> ;-|
[10:38:00] <Soulmate> Can't see on mobile
[10:38:24] <MattJ> Then what help is it anyway?
[10:38:42] <Soulmate> hmmm
[10:39:36] <Soulmate> still educates.:-)
[10:39:47] <MattJ> I think the snippet from Google is a bit too short to educate :)
[10:39:51] <MattJ> Use !define instead
[10:40:00] <Soulmate> ok
[10:40:22] <Soulmate> but I meant not that snippet was educating
[10:40:55] <Soulmate> !define java
[10:40:57] <HAL > *Java* (Indonesian: ''Jawa'') is an island of Indonesia and the site of its capital city, Jakarta.
[10:41:04] <Soulmate> hmmm
[10:41:07] <Soulmate> :-)
[10:41:18] <DeSnajpa_VIJ> ;]
[10:41:18] <Soulmate> no mention of sun java
[10:41:33] <MattJ> !define Java (programming language)
[10:41:35] <HAL > *Java* is a programming language originally developed by Sun Microsystems and released in 1995 as a core component of Sun's Java platform.
[10:41:44] <Soulmate> oh
[10:41:57] <Solarius> Soulmate: HAL takes the info from wikipedia
[10:42:11] <Soulmate> Ok
[10:42:26] <Solarius> Soulmate: Wikipedia uses that kind of thing, Java is about official "Java", and Java (programming language) is about the language
[10:42:54] <Soulmate> ok
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[10:43:26] <Soulmate> request has to specific
[10:45:06] <Solarius> Yep
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[11:52:47] <waqas> MattJ: It doesn't compare java to lua? ^^
[11:53:43] <MattJ> waqas, thankfully not
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[14:22:32] <Lastwebpage> someone user "Perfect dark" ?
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[14:24:40] <MattJ> Lastwebpage, ?
[14:24:51] <Lastwebpage> yes ?
[14:25:50] <MattJ> Ah, you meant "Someone use" ?
[14:26:03] <MattJ> I thought you meant there was a Jabber user called Perfect dark :)
[14:26:11] <Lastwebpage> no
[14:26:58] <Lastwebpage> if somebody have any idea how this program works ;)
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[15:32:14] <mini> evening
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[15:33:10] <mini> just set up my own jabber server on leopard :-P
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[16:11:46] <rfordinal> hello
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[16:12:16] <naw> hi
[16:12:39] <rfordinal> niceee. it's working :) flash jabber chat :)
[16:13:03] <rfordinal> hmm
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[16:13:33] <Lastwebpage> link?
[16:20:33] <naw> Lastwebpage: his resource was "xiff" so I guess that his client is based on http://www.igniterealtime.org/projects/xiff/
[16:22:00] <Lastwebpage> aaahhh this one
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[16:55:36] <sebas> hi folks, I'm not sure i'm at the right place... is it here that I can get a little bit of help on ejabberd ?
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[16:56:04] <Lastwebpage> mmmhhh depends
[16:56:10] <Solarius> sebas: i would recommed you to try jdev@ room also
[16:56:19] <Solarius> But post your messsage here too ;)
[16:56:24] <Solarius> But now, i have to slepp
[16:56:26] <Solarius> bye!
[16:56:26] <Lastwebpage> about using maybe
[16:56:33] <sebas> thanks Solarius
[16:57:25] <sebas> I'm doing a fresh install of ejabberd on debian etch, and I can't register the admin user.
[16:57:46] <sebas> using the debian package of ejabberd.
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[16:59:35] <Lastwebpage> ;) better ask in jdev@
[16:59:58] <sebas> Lastwebpage: thanks, I was about to do that.
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[17:31:30] <cdm10> Is there any way to list affiliations in a MUC?
[17:31:48] <MattJ> Vague question :)
[17:32:06] <MattJ> In a certain client? Coding with a library?
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[17:32:13] <MattJ> or is it a protocol question?
[17:32:23] <cdm10> MattJ: protocol... if need be, I can just send it with a library I use.
[17:32:53] <MattJ> Take a look at [xep 45]
[17:32:56] <HAL > XEP-0045: Multi-User Chat is Standards Track (Draft, 2008-01-14) See: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html
[17:33:01] <cdm10> thanks
[17:33:23] <MattJ> Owner use cases
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[17:45:19] <MIX> hi
[17:46:17] <MIX> is jabber multiuser chat better than irc?
[17:46:28] <cdm10> MIX: not really.
[17:47:11] <MIX> is not the future of irc?
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[17:53:31] <MattJ> MIX, define better :)
[17:53:40] <MattJ> But in many ways yes, it is better than IRC
[17:54:47] <MIX> what are the negative aspects?
[17:54:59] <MattJ> It is secure, it doesn't reveal your IP, etc.
[17:55:19] <MattJ> You can authenticate based on JID (so you don't have to share a password with the conference server)
[17:55:38] <MattJ> I don't know that there are any negative aspects, only differences
[17:55:52] <MattJ> For example (currently) in Jabber, a MUC is on a single server
[17:56:10] <MattJ> On IRC it can be (logically) spread across multiple servers
[17:57:06] <MattJ> This means you have greater chance of being able to use the channel on IRC, but it causes the potential for netsplits (which Jabber doesn't suffer from)
[17:58:43] <MattJ> IRC doesn't have authentication, IRC doesn't have standard encoding (making it difficult if you don't speak a language that uses only latin characters)
[18:00:28] <MIX> and negative aspects of MUC? Only low popularity and absence of multiple servers?
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[18:01:42] <MattJ> It does suffer from low popularity, multiple servers is good/bad depending on how you look at it
[18:02:55] <MIX> is there a way to integrate an IRC cannel to a MUC cannel?
[18:03:07] <MattJ> Yes
[18:03:32] <MattJ> If you are using Jabber, and want to connect to a channel, you can use a transport
[18:03:59] <MattJ> If you have a MUC and an IRC channel, you can use a bot to copy messages between them
[18:04:41] <MattJ> There are people working on MUC support for IRC servers, but I haven't seen any of their work released
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[18:11:37] <MIX> is setting the bot a job of each user or of a single administrator?
[18:12:01] <MattJ/Mobile> Just one bot
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[18:13:08] <MIX> where can i find how to set this bot?
[18:13:18] <MattJ> Inkscape use one
[18:13:59] <MattJ> I have written a quick and dirty one, there are probably better
[18:15:42] <MIX> could you send me your one so I can study it?
[18:17:25] <MattJ> It seems Inkscape use this: http://outflux.net/blog/archives/2006/07/30/jabber-to-irc-bridge/
[18:18:02] <MattJ> What platform would it be running on?
[18:19:05] <MIX> great. I'll try it
[18:19:09] <MIX> linux
[18:22:46] <MIX> ok. Thanks
[18:22:57] <MIX> bye
[18:24:08] <MattJ> np, see you :)
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[21:00:18] <andrew.b.talk> Can jabber be hosted on a web server such as siteground?
[21:00:34] <MattJ> siteground?
[21:00:58] <andrew.b.talk> siteground.com [http://siteground.com]. It's an online web hosting service
[21:00:59] <MattJ> Hmm, I see
[21:01:09] <MattJ> You would have to contact them about it
[21:01:47] <MattJ> If it's not provided by them (and if you don't have shell access to the machine) then you can't run a Jabber server
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[21:02:05] <andrew.b.talk> Hmm. Ok. Didn't think so
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[21:02:33] <MattJ> Some hosts such as Dreamhost provide Jabber+Web hosting
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[21:27:39] <andrew.b.talk> how would one typically install the jabber server rpm on an online web server? using command line?
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[21:32:55] <andrew.b.talk15785> how would one typically install the jabber server rpm on an online web server? using command line?
[21:35:26] <HedgeMage> andrew.b.talk15785: Yes, by SSH
[21:36:07] <HedgeMage> But, keep in mind that shared hosting plans and some managed VPNs don't allow you to install software
[21:36:40] <andrew.b.talk15785> I just wanted to try to see if it was possible
[21:37:00] <HedgeMage> Of course. I manage servers remotely all the time :)
[21:38:37] <andrew.b.talk15785> I'm a bit of a newb. how do I log into a shared hosting plan via SSH?
[21:39:43] <andrew.b.talk15785> I usually do stuff with cpanel
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[21:41:21] <MattJ> andrew.b.talk15785, if you're using Linux: ssh <your username>@<your site name>
[21:46:23] <andrew.b.talk15785> i'm using the terminal in mac osX. The command goes through but doesn't prompt me for my password
[21:48:40] <andrew.b.talk15785> i don't think there's any ssh access
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[21:57:29] <scoundrel> I just signed on with ssh
[21:57:47] <andrew.b.talk15785> huh?
[21:58:08] <scoundrel> yeah, once you enter your password it is remembered.
[21:58:20] <scoundrel> so don't forget it lol...
[21:58:36] <andrew.b.talk15785> it's very slow to respond
[21:59:31] <scoundrel> Im doin ok so far speed wise
[22:01:04] <andrew.b.talk15785> i'm trying to install openfire on my sitegorund shared hosting account
[22:01:36] <scoundrel> openfire seems to be getting popular with many people. :)
[22:01:52] <andrew.b.talk15785> it looks pretty :-D
[22:02:15] <scoundrel> lol
[22:02:29] <scoundrel> Down right sexy if it works!
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[22:04:29] <scoundrel> Hi HedgeMage! :)
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[22:09:24] <HedgeMage> wb scoundrel
[22:10:46] <scoundrel> :)
[22:14:46] <scoundrel> anyone know what the max size and file type an avatar has to be in order to be 'jabber friendly'
[22:15:21] <scoundrel> I keep getting this error msg, and decided to look into it.
[22:15:25] <scoundrel> NOTE: Trillian was unable to convert the avatar for this connection to something Jabber-friendly, so is not using the avatar.
[22:17:35] <scoundrel> Maybe I should ask in Chat room.... hmmmm
[22:23:56] <MattJ> scoundrel, http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0153.html#bizrules-image
[22:24:14] <scoundrel> Thanx, I'll check
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[22:24:39] <scoundrel> My other client don't give that error, So Im kinda curious.. did it ever appear?
[22:25:03] <MattJ> I don't see it
[22:25:16] <scoundrel> You wouldn't now.
[22:25:30] <scoundrel> 8k??? that's tiny!
[22:26:03] <MattJ> Yeah, avatars aren't supposed to be large :)
[22:26:24] <scoundrel> well... yeah..
[22:26:28] <MattJ> 8kb .png is reasonable
[22:26:34] <MattJ> But
[22:26:35] <MattJ> now
[22:26:35] <scoundrel> Im a showy kinda guy! hehee
[22:26:38] <MattJ> it is
[22:26:40] <MattJ> time for bed!
[22:26:45] <MattJ> Good night :)
[22:26:59] <scoundrel> ok.. Night MattJ sleep well! be safe out there!
[22:30:29] <scoundrel> Turns out mine is only 6k in size, but was jpg.. maybe converting it will do the trick.
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[22:54:00] <andrew.b.talk> is there a site online that will host a jabber chat room for you?
[22:54:47] <HedgeMage> andrew.b.talk: sure, most chat servers (conference.jabber.org and conference.jaim.at included) allow anyone to create rooms.
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[22:56:03] <andrew.b.talk> how do you actually create a room?
[22:56:30] <HedgeMage> just join one that doesn't exist yet
[22:56:35] <HedgeMage> and there it will be :)
[22:56:49] <andrew.b.talk> o i c. sounds easy enough
[22:56:52] <andrew.b.talk> thanks
[22:57:10] <HedgeMage> np!
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