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[04:05:33] <> Hi. I seem to be having a problem with my jabber.org account seeing the presence of an account hosted on another server (that I run). It was working at least a day ago; I don't know if this change coincided with the server migration.
[04:06:17] <> I'm seeing a "404: remote server not found" message from my xmpp client (pidgin).
[04:07:14] <> Did I come to the right place to ask for assistance?
[04:08:22] <> You did. Just wait a bit for someone to be able to help you.
[04:08:33] <> Cool. No fires here.
[04:08:40] <> It's just... curious.
[04:08:47] <> Usually we've got like two or three moderators around but tonight is a tad weird (just one guy)
[04:08:55] <> No that's cool man no worries
[04:09:19] <> Damn those volunteers! They need to be on my schedule, to service my needs! Me me me me!
[04:09:24] <> ;)
[04:10:28] <> So let me see if I'm getting this right. Your Jabber.org account is no longer connecting ?
[04:11:07] <> Because if that's the case then it might be
[04:11:09] <> No; I connect fine. No problem. I have problems with seeing the presence of another xmpp account on another (federated, I believe is the term) server.
[04:11:27] <> yes federated is correct
[04:11:30] <> hmm
[04:11:32] <> so you connect fine
[04:11:45] <> but your presence is not registering in the other xmpp server is that correct ?
[04:11:52] <> Yes, and vice versa.
[04:12:13] <> and the other server is it from a xmpp based service like gmail, facebook, or anything like that ?
[04:12:17] <> Let's call my jabber.org account "A", my gmail/gtalk account "B", and this other account "C".
[04:12:22] <> or just a regular straight xmpp server ?
[04:12:26] <> straight xmpp.
[04:12:30] <> (that I run, incidentally)
[04:12:34] <> ah
[04:12:38] <> B (gmail) sees A and C.
[04:12:49] <> A and C no talkee-talkee.
[04:13:02] <> Okay
[04:13:15] <> It was working fine as recently as a few days ago, but I couldn't say exactly when A & C stopped getting along.
[04:13:17] <> so xmpp-based services are out of the question since they're working fine
[04:13:33] <> That's my presumptive conclusion.
[04:13:37] <> okay...
[04:13:48] <> I didn't make any changes lately.
[04:13:50] <> :)
[04:13:52] <> and you just noticed this happening just recently (give or take a few weeks ?)
[04:14:01] <> Less, days.
[04:14:05] <> okay.
[04:14:21] <> To everyone who may know: when was the day that the migration to hermes2 started ?
[04:14:36] <> stpeter mentioned about the change yesterday (i think)
[04:15:05] <> bigbyfindrake: I figure that, if it happened a few days ago then it's a definite yes on the problem being related to the migration
[04:15:22] <> It seemed like an interesting coinkydink.
[04:15:23] <> and if so then hold on tight
[04:15:35] <> well it's a plausible thing to happen
[04:15:44] <> and I would agree
[04:16:02] <> especially since you said you've not made any config changes to your xmpp server
[04:16:13] <> That's correct.
[04:16:18] <> bigbyfindrake: personal home server, VPS, or...?
[04:16:43] <> colo.
[04:16:49] <> ?
[04:16:50] <> no changes to the server since june of 2012.
[04:16:55] <> oh
[04:16:57] <> I colocate the server.
[04:17:23] <> Well, you could say it's a VPS, but it's my hardware, too.
[04:17:23] <> you have a personal home cluster with a static IP ?
[04:17:31] <> It does run on a VM, so to speak.
[04:17:35] <> man I envy you
[04:17:38] <> It's at a colocation facility.
[04:17:48] <> 0.o
[04:17:53] <> You're so out of my league
[04:17:59] <> I give them $99 a month, they give me power, 1u of rack, and 10 MBps ethernet.
[04:18:11] <> DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMNNNNN son
[04:18:17] <> I've been doing this whole internet thing for a while. :)
[04:18:20] <> I wish I had that kind of bank
[04:18:30] <> practice, damn-you-san.
[04:18:39] <> ?
[04:18:42] <> damn you san ?
[04:18:43] <> (it takes time)
[04:18:47] <> ah
[04:19:04] <> a la "daniel-san" - Mr. Miyagi, Karate Kid... see? I'm already showing my age.
[04:19:12] <> oh oh
[04:19:16] <> eh don't worry
[04:19:27] <> /me ex 4chan lurker/contributor
[04:19:37] <> back in the waaay early days
[04:19:44] <> :)
[04:19:57] <> ex because it's not the same anymore
[04:20:09] <> The things, they change.
[04:20:16] <> the cancer spread and I packed my bags like that gold fish in Ren and Stimpy and said "I'm outta here man!"
[04:20:18] <> That's the way of it.
[04:20:39] <> yep
[04:21:05] <> Kind of a kick to see the dumb jokes of yonder years become a mainstay
[04:22:09] <> I'm reading up on 4chan - I have to admit never having heard of it before you mentioned it.
[04:22:39] <> Indeed - many of the things that they're talking about (eg. being rick-rolled) I'm familiar with.
[04:22:44] <> in an nutshell: started off as a anime imageboard a la japonese
[04:22:52] <> then it became an entirely different animal
[04:23:02] <> of its own right as a community
[04:23:21] <> So I'm reading.
[04:24:01] <> Before that I'd *try* to go to the futaba imageboards but I don't know japanese so, at the time, this was as good as it got for me.
[04:24:36] <> nowadays....I still don't know Japanese but I know enough to weave around.
[04:24:45] <> at least to sound out the kana
[04:24:46] <> :P
[04:25:18] <> It's a heck of a thing, Japanese. I know zip, myself, but it's very alien to someone familiar with many romance languages.
[04:26:06] <> ハンバーガ　＝ hamburger <--- and other simple crap like that
[04:26:27] <> oh
[04:26:47] <> *shrugs* it was at first for me until I used the awesome power of Spanglish to notice the phonetics kind of reminding me of Spanish
[04:26:59] <> kind of.
[04:27:33] <> /me smiles
[04:27:39] <> /me wonders if emotes work here.
[04:28:31] <> Regardless - I'm not super-worried about my problems myself, but more thinking that if I'm having them, others might be as well.
[04:29:37] <> (=ﾟωﾟ）　likely knowing jabber.org
[04:29:44] <> :P
[04:31:11] <> Ah, they show up as blocky place-holders for me; rectangles with four little circles inthem.
[04:31:31] <> If you're on windows then install the Japanese language pack
[04:31:54] <> If you're on a *nix distro....I don't know :P
[04:31:58] <> I might if I was planning on reading Japanese. :)
[04:32:24] <> ehh you didn't miss much anyway: it's just a emoticon with non-ASCII characters. I guess the equivilant would be :3
[04:32:54] <> (See it's a face with a doggy mouth smiling)
[04:33:42] <> /me smiles
[04:33:46] <> /me shrugs
[04:34:06] <> /me just cheats and describes the emotions with words
[04:34:34] <> /me shrugs and thinks "Besides emoticons are overrated after a while"
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[04:37:26] <> I choose to think that after a while people learn to make up for the "lack of bandwidth" in text-only communications, but I'm crazy like that.
[04:40:02] <> Good point. Although one of reasons I tend to not use much emoticons is because sometimes it can be confusing in terms of expressing meaning. The same goes with the overuse of Acronymese. But then again, when you're constrained for one reason or another, it's fine.
[04:41:10] <> True dat, y0.
[04:42:25] <> /me grunts approvingly
[04:43:04] <> Who knows why a man uses a hammer instead of a screw driver? Maybe he doesn't have a screw driver, or maybe the screw just pissed him off.
[04:43:21] <> That's not a man. That's Jeremy Clarkson
[04:44:20] <> Is that his M.O.? Use a hammer (or a blow torch)?
[04:44:37] <> For that Toybota project of his ? oh yeah and even after that.
[04:45:23] <> I'm not really familiar with him, although I did look him up on the intertubes just now.
[04:46:22] <> heh
[04:47:17] <> Well, I think I'm about out of here.
[04:48:05] <> hey let me uh pm you a sec before you go
[04:50:50] <> PM on, McDuff.
[04:52:09] <> sent you a few bits
[04:52:24] <> I PMed you, too, but I got nothing.
[04:52:40] <> From my jabber.org account, even.
[04:52:44] <> It makes me wonder.
[04:52:56] <> sonokamome@jabber.org
[04:53:07] <> Ah, yes, well, that would do it.
[04:53:27] <> Cool beans
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[06:39:16] <> Restart.
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[16:56:08] <> test
[16:56:12] <> hi there! does anyone here use Facebook via XMPP?
[16:57:13] <> I don't
[16:57:16] <> there are known problems
[16:57:36] <> yeah, I can't connect anymore
[16:57:41] <> see for instance http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/juser/2013-August/007003.html
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