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[16:47:09] <> hi all...i am really trying to decide on an open source XMPP server
[16:47:17] <> because i cant offered one from a vendor
[16:47:39] <> i am stuck between ejabberd and OpenFire....ejabberd is putting me off because of Erlang
[16:48:04] <> and OpenFire....i dont see a lot of support
[16:48:17] <> can someone help me choose an XMPP server
[16:48:43] <> Why was it you discounted Prosody?
[16:51:16] <> because again its written in Lua
[16:51:29] <> and i am not sure its better supported than ejabberd
[16:51:44] <> better Erlang than Lua...especially with ejabberd support
[16:55:20] <> does anybody know any companies using any open source jabber technologies
[16:55:56] <> also....this chatroom seems to be a bit slow to me...even with so few users....i dont know which XMPP server this uses...probably from Isode
[16:56:00] <> Why not go to the support venues for each of these servers and ask?
[16:56:35] <> Ejabberd's is ejabberd@conference.jabber.ru, prosody's is Prosody@conference.prosody.im, and I don't know about Openfire.
[16:56:48] <> i did that and am not getting satisfacory answers....but i am trying again
[16:57:28] <> why is this chatroom a bit slow?
[16:57:35] <> .
[16:57:39] <> It's not, for me.
[16:57:51] <> So I suspect it's the link between your server and jabber.org.
[16:58:26] <> well....i am on a broadband connection...on which i stream HD movies easily
[16:59:25] <> so dont think its because of my connection....my chat messages are not real time
[16:59:26] <> there is a delay
[16:59:34] <> Not the IP layer, the XMPP layer.
[16:59:38] <> What server are you running?
[17:00:16] <> I can see that jabber.org has about 110ms latency over the IP layer to your DSL.
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[17:01:59] <> hi kev...i dont understand what you mean....i am not running a server....i am just using pidgin to chat on this chatroom
[17:02:07] <> Ah.
[17:02:13] <> You're not just using Pidgin to chat in heree
[17:02:37] <> You're using Pidgin to connect to a server (which I thought you said you were running on your DSL, but now realise you didn't), which is then connecting to jabber.org.
[17:02:52] <> So your messages go from Pidgin over your DSL to your server, and that server then connects to jabber.org
[17:03:40] <> (Or cable instead of DSL, or whatever your connection is)
[17:04:37] <> But from my DSL to my server, to jabber.org, back to my server, and back down to my client to chat in this room is close enough to instantaneous that I can't notice.
[17:04:50] <> .
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[17:05:46] <> So I think this issue is remote to jabber.org.
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[17:06:26] <> i dont understand which server i am connecting to
[17:06:36] <> i seem to connect to jabber.org directly
[17:06:42] <> You don't.
[17:06:48] <> I can tell you what server you're using, if you want.
[17:06:57] <> i mean i clicked a link on xmpp.org and that opened up pidgin on my windows machine
[17:07:03] <> and i am chatting thus
[17:07:14] <> You have a JID (your ID on the network, looks like an email address), and that is where you log in. That server then does all your XMPP for you.
[17:07:25] <> Yes, but in Pidgin you'd already registered your XMPP account, which resides on another server.
[17:08:06] <> So clicking the link, Pidgin got told "please join this MUC room", and it thought "Oh, I already have an XMPP account set up, I can use that!" and off it went.
[17:08:50] <> oh ok
[17:09:18] <> yes my account is on ch3kr.net
[17:09:34] <> Yes, I know that. I'm just being careful not to give away your personal information that people other than admins in here can't see.
[17:10:36] <> is this because XMPP is a federated network
[17:10:46] <> read that somewhere
[17:10:49] <> Your server is able to talk to jabber.org because of the federation, yes.
[17:11:04] <> Like email, you have your account on one server, but you're able to talk to people on any other (public) email server.
[17:12:34] <> ok...and apparently i cannot create an account on jabber.org because thats closed....so i cant directly talk to jabber.org
[17:12:53] <> Right, registration's closed at the moment. We'll get around to re-opening it at some point.
[17:13:08] <> It's not immediately obvious to me why your connection should be slow, though.
[17:13:38] <> I'm able to send stanzas from jabber.org to ch3kr.net and get replies pretty much immediately.
[17:13:56] <> If you send a message to yourself on ch3kr.net, do you see any delay?
[17:16:39] <> how do i do that?
[17:17:28] <> ok...sorry i did that
[17:17:45] <> i sent a new IM to myself....and the message failed with Code 404
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[17:20:34] <> That shouldn't happen.
[17:20:58] <> I wonder what they're running, because that sounds broken.
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[17:22:00] <> Anyway, I've run a few sensible tests, and jabber.org seems to be responding promptly at the moment. I'm going AFK for a bit.
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