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[08:48:00] <> Upgrading the server in a few moments.
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[10:10:36] <> Hello.
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[10:23:49] <> register.jabber.org: Showing old out-of-service-message that seems to be outdated by months now. Scarecrow to new users! Should be more general or recent date.
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[17:22:26] <> Is there any guide on security issues and handling in XMPP-network, aiming for general users, not geeks?
[17:23:00] <> I got some people with privacy interest i'd like to jump the train, but not sure wether that will work out.
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[18:37:43] <> leseratte: hi
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[18:38:00] <> leseratte: sorry, I've been in meetings and such :-)
[18:38:27] <> leseratte: we don't really have a guide like that, but I agree that would be very helpful
[18:40:03] <> leseratte: I've been planning to write a page about it on jabber.org, but that will be a bit specific to the security improvements we're planning at the jabber.org IM service
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[19:53:12] <> The manifest says ssl3 isnt good enough, whats the catch with it?
[19:53:25] <> while i dont know wether its standard these days here
[19:54:16] <> how safe can one feel with all connected to same server?
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[20:24:54] <> leseratte: actually, I need to update the manifesto to change that text about sslv3
[20:26:03] <> sslv3 isn't a problem
[20:27:54] <> (and update draft-saintandre-xmpp-tls too)
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[21:13:25] <> leseratte, the short answer is: yes, server admins can log/view all messages if they want to
[21:13:40] <> The only protection against that is OTR encryption, if you use it properly
[21:14:27] <> damn....
[21:14:45] <> and if i trust the server admin?
[21:15:10] <> could be a limited term reliability...
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[21:16:59] <> leseratte, it is best if you trust the server admin, for sure
[21:17:06] <> (which can be yourself... :) )
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[21:17:55] <> i wouldnt trust myself unless i knew using a hardboiled safe Linx setup
[21:18:24] <> safe against usb sticks attacks included
[21:19:39] <> one would need an own machien with static ip, who knows waht happens at some virtual machine service?
[21:21:30] <> Sure
[21:21:57] <> I develop XMPP server software - we've seen a lot of people installing it on their Raspberry Pi's at home :)
[21:22:22] <> Probably as secure as you could get - but you lose a bit of reliability, and you have to solve DNS and port forwarding
[21:23:16] <> i have some scrap for a separate linux, but not the dough for a static ip
[21:23:44] <> and with energy ripoff of these days....
[21:25:30] <> does anyone know the status of java security? I didnt use that since last years security hole - no freenetproject anymore
[21:32:54] <> /me edits https://github.com/stpeter/manifesto and https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-saintandre-xmpp-tls/
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[22:38:19] <> leseratte, no idea, I'm one of those people prejudiced against Java nowadays :)
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