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[00:05:34] <> but it seems jabberjocke will be happy to meetup anyway :)
[00:07:19] <> I hope they do get some people to gather
[00:08:10] <> would be nice indeed
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[15:13:45] <> Nice to see conference.jabber.org is back from the temporary hiatus.
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[20:45:48] <> Hello! Is there some good paper about ZLIB compression for XMPP? Its pros and cons. The only discussions I found is about small HTTP-objects. But it is not quite suit for XMPP, as I understand, because XMPP is a stream. I need to understand if the compression would be useful, or it is just a waste of CPUs on the server. Could you give me a link or considerations on this topic, please?
[20:46:46] <> It uses a lot of RAM, which is the main issue I've seen with it in practice
[20:46:59] <> But XMPP does compress very well
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[21:01:15] <> Doh. I thought XEP-0239 (Binary XMPP) is about binary XML :( Is there no XEP for binary serialization of XML in XMPP? With dictionary-based replacement of string literals to numberic ones. Sure it's not useful in the age of wideband Internet, but mobile networks (unstable and slow) serve bad for XMPP.
[21:02:07] <> you mean like http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0322.html (EXI binding)?
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[21:16:53] <> oh. missed that xep. thank you!
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[21:18:47] <> uouipopufy: it's mostly been proposed for Internet of Things applications, but could be used for other purposes
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[22:20:56] <> hm, anyone knows which desktop clients have support for Stream Management?
[22:22:44] <> /me nm found out.
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[23:09:18] <> have canceled the meetup in SF
[23:10:57] <> Anyone in santa clara area that like to take a beer
[23:11:03] <> tonight
[23:11:21] <> jabberjocke: I just got back from Santa Clara yesterday :(
[23:15:19] <> There once was a discussion on the jdev list about creating a new xmpp software category for software that is not a traditional xmpp client. I think it would be nice to have a list of xmpp enabled software (or whatever it should be called). What's the stance of the XSF? Is it feasable that such a list appear on xmpp.org?
[23:16:09] <> yes, that sounds like a good idea
[23:19:08] <> I am not sure how to name the category. Typical candiates would be spectrum2, bitlbee, etc.
[23:19:55] <> And maybe even GNUSocial's XMPP Plugin (inherited from identi.ca/status.net)
[23:23:21] <> Flow: yeah
[23:24:29] <> stpeter: Sorry for not advertizing was here over the weeken to attend the IPv6 conference http://gogonetlive.com/gogonetlive-speakers.asp
[23:24:48] <> leave for seden on saturday
[23:24:56] <> sweden on saturday
[23:25:09] <> /me nods
[23:25:12] <> brb
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[23:30:49] <> Flow, I’ve also thought about such a thing when I wrote a blog engine based on PubSub.
[23:31:09] <> Yep, would be nice if such software was also mentioned on xmpp.org :)
[23:31:12] <> basically "other XMPP-aware software"
[23:31:23] <> which doesn't sound so cool, but it's accurate
[23:31:32] <> Also for games, for example I’m currently working on match discovery for mine.
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