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[04:23:07] <> /me wondering why jabber.org is still not doing web account registrations
[04:23:40] <> I haven't seen stpeter in a while to ask, hadn't realized they were still disabled. Anyone know?
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[23:22:03] <> stpeter: hey, any update about the server list of xmpp.net in xml format?
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[23:22:50] <> http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2013-November/001930.html <- about this
[23:23:04] <> naw: no objections to fixing it :-) I was offline on business travel for 12 days
[23:23:09] <> and now I have a lot of catching up to do
[23:23:27] <> oh, did you enjoy the travel?
[23:23:38] <> no
[23:23:40] <> well
[23:23:42] <> :(
[23:23:42] <> it was for work
[23:24:02] <> IETF 88 and an internal workshop earlier this week at my job
[23:25:37] <> oh, well, I have to go, it's a bit late on my timezone
[23:25:43] <> bye
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[23:26:47] <> :)
[23:27:09] <> stpeter: do not forget the XEP-0309 too on XMPP.net
[23:27:18] <> hehe
[23:27:26] <> yeah, so much to do, so little time
[23:27:57] <> I have two big presentation next week at the office, but after that I think things will slow down a bit (I hope!)
[23:28:13] <> stpeter: is registration coming back soon ?
[23:28:18] <> ok ok!
[23:29:35] <> Relaax
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[23:30:01] <> sono: I think we can do that soon
[23:30:19] <> I've got some friends I need a-convertin' to the gosple of XMPP
[23:30:30] <> heehee
[23:30:31] <> gospel*
[23:31:22] <> sono, jabber.org isn't the only server :)
[23:31:33] <> MattJ: true :-)
[23:31:39] <> I know but jabber.org is special
[23:31:46] <> no it isn't
[23:31:56] <> https://xmpp.net/directory.php
[23:32:00] <> a-thousand-miles-under-a-corn-field-in-the-middle-of-middle-america-special
[23:32:07] <> Heh
[23:32:13] <> MattJ: we could make jabber.org have a score of "F" at xmpp.net ;-)
[23:32:35] <> It already has, hasn't it?
[23:32:58] <> Ah, C
[23:33:18] <> With all those export ciphers I'm surprised it's that high
[23:33:47] <> it had been A, no?
[23:33:56] <> It did I think
[23:33:56] <> we need to fix that cipher suite issue
[23:34:09] <> Hey who started this IM Observatory web page ?
[23:34:13] <> This is awesome for sec
[23:34:17] <> Sec*
[23:34:23] <> Thijs Alkemade wrote the code
[23:34:30] <> he's the maintainer of Adium, too
[23:34:37] <> The lead singer for System of a Down ?
[23:34:42] <> Oh wait no
[23:34:42] <> sorry
[23:34:58] <> (the name spelling threw me off)
[23:35:08] <> Nice
[23:35:42] <> heh, we also need to fix the SSL settings for https://xmpp.net/ :-)
[23:35:54] <> according to the Calomel plugin
[23:35:56] <> brb
[23:36:03] <> sure thing
[23:38:38] <> stpeter: you can see for ietf and cisco in the same time (inform the good guys)
[23:38:57] <> we can't fix cisco.com until we have POSH
[23:39:08] <> The Spice Girls ?
[23:39:13] <> jabber.ietf.org will be fixed soon (I'm helping them with that)
[23:39:15] <> I thought they retired or something
[23:39:24] <> http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-miller-posh/
[23:39:48] <> Why not possible for cisco? There are jabber.ietf and ietf too ;)
[23:41:19] <> Neustradamus: Cisco deployment situation, but basically we need POSH (cisco.com is just a virtual host of the WebEx Messenger deployment -- eat your own dog food and all that)
[23:41:59] <> I see!
[23:44:10] <> About SSL settings for xmpp.org (with subdomain) and jabber.org (in the same time no?)
[23:48:03] <> same time?
[23:48:15] <> xmpp.org and jabber.org are on different machines and use different software
[23:50:21] <> hmm, as to https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=jabber.org&type=client -- is the public key score so low just because we include the root certificate in the chain? that seems a bit harsh :-)
[23:51:18] <> in the same time, to do on different server in the same time (the setting)
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[23:58:51] <> well, we will change those settings at different times, I think
[23:59:10] <> xmpp.org doesn't have any user accounts (well, only one, which is memberbot)
[23:59:20] <> so the main thing for xmpp.org is s2s
[23:59:42] <> jabber.org is a huge service and we need to make incremental improvements so that we can figure out the operational and support impact
[00:00:21] <> e.g., even just requiring channel encryption, changing the SSL/TLS versions, or disallowing weak cipher suites might result in a support burden because some clients won't be able to connect