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[04:20:20] <> Hello!
[04:20:24] <> Any1 here?
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[06:19:34] <> I have a question about XEP-0117: User Tune.
[06:20:20] <> I think URL format should be explicitly specified in XEP.
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[06:24:37] <> Is it should be percent-encoded, or plain URL.
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[07:15:08] <> Yagiza, any valid URL should be percent-encoded, and while I guess many clients don’t do it they should.
[07:15:26] <> Err, s/should/MUST/
[07:16:47] <> As the client displaying it, you may instead correctly handle non-percent-encoded URLs.
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[07:18:38] <> I have some clarifying questions regarding the XMPP manifesto (https://github.com/stpeter/manifesto). Is there anyone here involved in the manifesto?
[07:23:53] <> There's a thread on the jdev mailing list about it; I'd suggest asking there.
[07:26:36] <> (That is: No, Peter's not here at the moment, although you're welcome to ask the question here anyway)
[07:27:20] <> I like to ask my SMTP questions over SMTP, and my XMPP questions over XMPP :)
[07:29:04] <> A strict reading of the manifesto does not bind the service providers validate the certificates of *other* providers in any way, although it does bind them to deploying "certificates issued by well-known and widely-deployed" CAs.
[07:29:53] <> There is an odd asymmetry to this, since if no one is validating certificates, there is not much point in certificates from well known CAs.
[07:31:30] <> I believe this is deliberate, as requiring validation in the next few months would likely just fracture the network.
[07:32:04] <> Baby steps.
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[15:47:55] <> Where did the others go?
[15:48:12] <> Or is my client acting up?
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[18:28:56] <> it seems reasonable to conclude, that "well-known and widely-deployed" CAs includes cacert.org, since this CA is in the debian package ca-certificates.
[18:29:29] <> anyone know precisely what "well-known and widely-deployed" means?
[18:48:51] <> Just Debian is "widely-deployed"?
[18:54:34] <> Sure, since Debian itself is widely-deployed :P
[19:03:09] <> I think it's more "most of your users and peers trust it", or ideally s/most/all/, rather than "Yep, some people definitely trust it".
[19:04:55] <> i just mean, there are many debian xmpp servers, and all of these include cacert.org in the set of "well-known".
[19:05:31] <> ergo, cacert.org is well-known.
[19:06:01] <> Sure, if you just care about s2s trust.
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[21:30:46] <> If a client sends my server something I don't support, for example an iq get <query xmlns="jabber:iq:privacy"/> , what is the appropriate error?
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[21:31:26] <> I don't want to do a stream error, because that would close the connection
[21:32:04] <> feature-not-implemented sounds perfect, but the docs say "e.g., the entity understands the namespace but does not recognize the element name", when here it's the namespace I don't understand
[21:32:49] <> graham: service-unavailable is our default unhandled stanza error response in Prosody
[21:33:18] <> Great, thanks
[21:33:19] <> I can't remember where exactly the spec suggested that
[21:33:26] <> But afaik, it did
[21:33:35] <> Spec for that is the single line "The server or recipient does not currently provide the requested service"
[21:33:44] <> which seems to cover my case
[21:33:48] <> service-unavailable, iirc
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[21:34:35] <> I recall there being a discussion about this somewhere, but can't remember where. It was before the new XMPP RFCs were published.
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