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[08:22:25] <> Restarting the server, see you in a couple.
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[10:06:36] <> Guys, I have a friend using XMPP too
[10:06:48] <> And he asks if there's a client for sending images like whatsapp
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[12:14:18] <> Pleas bots Join googel@conference.jabber.ru
[12:18:08] <> [15:14] <googel> Pleas bots Join googel@conference.jabber.ru
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[12:48:36] <> wat
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[20:16:46] <> support@conference.openjabber.ru
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[20:25:21] <> hi
[20:25:38] <> someone here for help?
[20:26:27] <> I tried to connect with thunderbird, but got an error
[20:26:29] <> rubo77: I can try.
[20:26:37] <> what error?
[20:26:37] <> I have to enter a certificate
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[20:28:53] <> the first time he asked me to select one of my email certificates, but none of them fits
[20:30:49] <> the first time tried "rubo77@jabber.org" then that happened . then I tried to add an account with just "rubo77" but that didnt work either
[20:30:51] <> rubo77: do you have the latest Thunderbird version?
[20:30:56] <> jes
[20:31:02] <> 24.0.1
[20:31:21] <> it sounds like it might be a problem with jabber.org's TLS certificate
[20:31:30] <> now it doesent ask me again for the certificate, it just sais "authentification error"
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[20:31:50] <> in pidgin i dont have to enter any certificates
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[20:32:25] <> I can try again with my other account: rubo77@jabber.ccc.de
[20:32:47] <> it's worth trying
[20:33:33] <> it is tb 24.0.1 portable
[20:39:44] <> it works with that one
[20:39:51] <> so it is a problem with jabber.org
[20:40:03] <> can you see anything in the error console?
[20:40:18] <> how can i open that?
[20:40:29] <> Tools, Error Console maybe
[20:40:45] <> I don't use Thunderbird, but that's where it is in most Mozilla products
[20:42:02] <> http://www.imagebanana.com/view/kz5y4lal/jabber.png
[20:42:15] <> thats my errorconsole
[20:44:46] <> rubo77: those are all from IRC
[20:45:26] <> try connecting to jabber.org while the error console is open
[20:52:49] <> o
[20:52:50] <> ok
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[20:53:46] <> i have to disconnect here then
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[20:54:02] <> you want to chat with me in the other account?
[20:54:13] <> you can be connected at multiple places
[20:54:14] <> rubo77@jabber.ccc.de
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[20:54:25] <> but maybe that s the bug
[20:54:36] <> no, try to connect to your jabber.org account in thunderbird while the error console is open
[20:54:43] <> ok
[20:57:11] <> now tb asks this: http://www.imagebanana.com/view/cu7rlhvl/jabber2.png
[20:57:39] <> which one should i select now
[20:57:54] <> they are my email certificates in the selectbox, none fits to any jabber
[20:59:00] <> and why a certificate for "conference" ?
[20:59:15] <> I said: rubo77@jabber.org
[21:04:17] <> How can I get such a certificate for conference.jabber.org?
[21:04:38] <> what is it asking you to select?
[21:04:55] <> this: http://www.imagebanana.com/view/cu7rlhvl/jabber2.png
[21:05:08] <> in english?
[21:05:15] <> yes please
[21:05:35] <> choose a certificate that is shown as identification to you
[21:05:48] <> not "to you"
[21:05:58] <> choose a certificate that is shown as identification
[21:06:11] <> and then i can select all my email certificates
[21:06:19] <> that is nonsense to me????
[21:06:34] <> hmm, I don't understand why it would show your email certificates either.
[21:06:44] <> strange
[21:06:58] <> that is the valid cert for jabber.org. Accept it.
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[21:07:18] <> which one?
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[21:07:25] <> jabber2.png
[21:07:38] <> ohhh wait, jabber.org doesn't use a real certificate?
[21:07:47] <> it does.
[21:07:52] <> It is a StartCom
[21:08:20] <> but maybe for some reason TB doesn't have it in its root list.
[21:08:25] <> I'm not sure if that's what he's talking about
[21:08:33] <> if i choose the first one i get the error in the console: "Zeitstempel: 17.10.2013 23:08:07 Fehler: Error decoding: nonce="kznhNxhG8JJrmYW1T9ZNYPA7sivtGrHzOX4FE4rnDQo=" Quelldatei: resource:///modules/xmpp-session.jsm Zeile: 349 Quelltext: prpl-jabber"
[21:08:58] <> it has the StartCom cert under "Dieses Website verlangt..."
[21:09:04] <> no
[21:09:07] <> there isnt
[21:09:29] <> Ausgestellt unter StartCom Ltd
[21:09:48] <> I never used TB and I am not fluent in german so I don't know what that window is asking
[21:09:59] <> ThurahT: I'm having the same problem.
[21:10:47] <> he said, "choose a certificate that is shown as identification"
[21:10:58] <> and then it shows his email certificates
[21:11:03] <> presumably S/MIME or something
[21:11:35] <> http://translate.google.de/#de/en/diese%20webseite%20verlangt%20dass%20sie%20sich%20mit%20einem%20zertifikat%20identifizieren
[21:11:44] <> it wants a ID cert to cert the cert? : S
[21:11:46] <> yes
[21:11:57] <> ThurahT: something like that
[21:12:00] <> there are only my smime and pgp certificates in there
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[21:13:25] <> Could it be a client certificate of some sort? I'm not aware that XMPP supports anything like that, but maybe something to do with SASL?
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[21:14:02] <> in jabber.ccc.de it doesent ask for a certificate to choose, and it just wall works fine
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[21:14:31] <> that should be done automatically. Like Pidgin does it or any other XMPP client I know of.
[21:15:16] <> it obviously knows about the StartCom cert. I don't really see how mail certificates are involved.
[21:15:33] <> it isn't.
[21:15:42] <> or shouldn't be.
[21:15:52] <> I didn't think so either.
[21:16:36] <> this is smtng I never needed thinking about.
[21:17:09] <> question is why jabber.ccc.de works
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[21:18:12] <> rubo77: did you try selecting one of those certs?
[21:18:42] <> yes
[21:18:45] <> doesent work
[21:18:56] <> what error do you get?
[21:19:12] <> if i look into my certificates, i see these: http://www.imagebanana.com/view/kk2c7iof/jabber3.png
[21:19:24] <> authentification error
[21:19:29] <> this window never appeared with jabber.ccc.de?
[21:19:41] <> ant that error in the console
[21:19:52] <> "Zeitstempel: 17.10.2013 23:08:07 Fehler: Error decoding: nonce="kznhNxhG8JJrmYW1T9ZNYPA7sivtGrHzOX4FE4rnDQo=" Quelldatei: resource:///modules/xmpp-session.jsm Zeile: 349 Quelltext: prpl-jabber"
[21:20:11] <> do you have thunderbird?
[21:22:40] <> try these steps http://du.cx/BkC
[21:23:26] <> and read Florian Quèze comment,
[21:23:45] <> you might actually want to report it as a bug to Mozilla if you can't get it working
[21:29:25] <> I tried rubo77@conference.jabber.org but that doesent work either
[21:29:56] <> no, only the server name and port is valid
[21:30:22] <> should be conference.jabber.org:5222
[21:31:26] <> but the 5222 is in the other field already
[21:34:18] <> ok. Well, I am to unfamiliar with TB and it's XMPP routines to give any more advice. Sorry.
[21:34:32] <> Why not try the TB irc chat room?
[21:40:04] <> that works fine
[21:40:16] <> but I would like to connect to my jabber buddies
[21:40:21] <> in thunderbird
[21:42:11] <> no I meant asking advice there instead
[21:42:54] <> they should know better than me at least.. : )
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[21:50:05] <> i posted it here: http://www.thunderbird-mail.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=64357
[21:50:09] <> gotta go
[21:50:46] <> if you want to help me later, contact me: rubo77@jabber.org or rubo77@jabber.ccc.de
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