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[10:39:02] <> Guus, is there some kind of null authenticator for openfire? so it'll just accept any credentials? for benchmarking purposes
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[11:09:17] <> Tobias: Not to my knowledge, but the user providing mechanism is pluggable (it uses an API that can easily be extended).
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[14:04:50] <> Is there something like http://www.tigase.org/content/mobile-optimizations as a XEP?
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[14:05:55] <> Flow, You have entered room jdev@confe
[14:06:05] <> Flow, http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0286.html
[14:07:08] <> Tobias: XEP-286 is more like a best pratice guide. I am looking for something described in http://www.tigase.org/content/mobile-optimizations as XEP
[14:07:34] <> there isn't
[14:07:39] <> SIFT goes in that direction
[14:14:08] <> Flow: also see http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2013-May/027554.html
[14:16:15] <> ralphm: ty
[14:18:48] <> that reminds me, I need to update the SIFT spec
[14:19:13] <> stpeter: so much to do, so little time
[14:19:37] <> yep
[14:19:39] <> brb
[14:19:42] <> stpeter, also...is there an idea on vcard change notification? using PEP would work, but that doesn't work for change notification of muc occupants
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[14:59:41] <> sheesh, flaky internet connectivty today -- maybe it has something to do with the thunder+hail storm passing through...
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[15:49:32] <> Tobias: the new vcard stuff uses PEP. MEP
[15:51:50] <> is MEP already XEPified?
[15:55:09] <> Tobias: XEP-0316
[15:55:47] <> But that's not the same thing.
[15:55:55] <> Or, rather, it's not really what Tobias is asking for.
[15:56:00] <> maybe not
[15:56:11] <> For vcard stuff it's a way to get at a user's PEP nodes from within a MUC.
[15:56:14] <> I'm deep in i18n stuff at the moment, will come up for air in about an hour
[15:56:28] <> Rather than a way to publish to a node unique to that MUC.
[15:56:37] <> Kev, MEP would be if the room had a vcard?
[15:56:58] <> hm..no
[15:57:02] <> that didn't make sense
[15:57:03] <> Tobias: MEP is PEP both for the room and the occupants, but the occupants publish to their MEP nodes. It's not a mapping back to PEP.
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[16:01:22] <> right...so for vcards they'd have to publish an accessible MEP node for vcard updates
[16:01:30] <> or is it more complicated
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[16:16:19] <> Could someone please change the entry for jaxmpp2 @ http://xmpp.org/xmpp-software/libraries/ to "Java / Android / Google Web Toolkit"?
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[16:18:37] <> Flow: I can
[16:18:47] <> so JavaScript is wrong?
[16:19:31] <> not entirely, it's related to the Google Web Toolkit target.
[16:19:58] <> But first, jaxmpp2 is a plain java language based library, that comes with 3 targets: j2se, android and gwt
[16:20:27] <> updates, please check
[16:20:55] <> Alex: looks good, ty
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[16:26:17] <> (Y)
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[18:01:12] <> Tobias: this one?
[18:01:20] <> yeah
[18:01:54] <> logs still not available :/
[18:02:47] <> so if i'm in a MUC, how do i know each occupants User Avatar node to subscribe to? or would i've been automatically subscribed?
[18:10:20] <> Tobias: Hm, 84 was the one where you weren't supposed to use the PEP filter magic for the avatar itself
[18:10:36] <> So that's tricky
[18:11:04] <> And you'd need the full jid, but 153 has that issue too
[18:11:07] <> err
[18:11:09] <> bare jid*
[18:11:25] <> So (semi)anonymous rooms..
[18:12:12] <> avatars should work in anonymous rooms too, not?
[18:14:04] <> Should. This has been discussed before iirc, but I don't remember if there was any solution
[18:14:45] <> seems i've either missed that discussion or forgot about it
[18:15:39] <> Tobias, but http://blog.prosody.im/multi-user-chat-gets-rich/
[18:16:18] <> Tobias: vcard4 and other pep-based things have the same issue
[18:17:28] <> "I chose to turn the MUC's bare JID into a virtual pubsub service for each occupant." but still with a dedicated node for each participant?
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