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[16:33:54] <> Hey guys
[16:34:21] <> for those interested in other real-time stuff, I did a guest blog on log events using Elasticsearch: http://www.elasticsearch.org/blog/using-elasticsearch-and-logstash-to-serve-billions-of-searchable-events-for-customers/
[16:34:32] <> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6477062
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[16:43:35] <> we're #20 now
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[16:47:23] <> hah, wrong room
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[17:25:58] <> ralphm, thanks, very interested... shall read shortly
[17:26:27] <> I've been looking for a DB to dump realtime stuff into, and then efficiently query it later
[17:27:01] <> Most DBs appear to focus on record-based apps rather than being append-mainly stream sinks
[17:27:22] <> bear recommended Elasticsearch to me a while back as a solution for that
[17:29:01] <> https://twitter.com/disktree/status/385031734749720576
[17:29:06] <> bbiab
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[18:08:48] <> hmm, http://developer.android.com/google/gcm/ccs.html
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[18:10:34] <> stpeter, stop advertising technologies not ready for the cloud ;)
[18:10:51] <> :P
[18:12:14] <> haha
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[18:21:17] <> so their do their own XEP-0198?
[18:21:39] <> probably
[18:21:49] <> they're Smart™
[18:21:58] <> so they don't need standards
[18:22:38] <> or, we can try and work with this team and help them along?
[18:22:44] <> yep
[18:22:48] <> that just my 1 second evaluation of the ACK/NACK headlines and that image
[18:23:53] <> ralphm, and in the end asking them if they've ever thought about using this cloudy technology for their IM/Communication products
[18:24:28] <> I must say I find it frustrating at times to work on all these specs and just have people ignore them
[18:25:00] <> BTW https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-push-devs/ might be of interest
[18:25:04] <> Tobias: well, haha
[18:25:18] <> e.g. https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-push-devs/msg00067.html
[18:25:24] <> I plan to post there in the near future
[18:25:26] <> stpeter: image how those ASN.1 people must feel
[18:25:40] <> yeah
[18:25:54] <> ralphm, snap
[18:26:00] <> hey, XML was the new hotness in 1998 -- clearly we wouldn't design something new with XML today
[18:26:10] <> and when was ASN.1's time of hotness?
[18:28:28] <> the Dark Ages? ;-)
[18:28:34] <> I don't know that ASN.1 was ever hot
[18:29:11] <> "ASN.1 is a joint standard of the International Organization for Standardization (ISO), International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC), and International Telecommunication Union Telecommunication Standardization Sector ITU-T, originally defined in 1984 as part of CCITT X.409:1984. ASN.1 moved to its own standard, X.208, in 1988 due to wide applicability."
[18:30:23] <> so it was as hot as design by committee can be
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