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[11:41:14] <Tobias> hi Alex
[11:42:26] <Alex> hi Tobias
[11:42:54] <Astro> hi Tobias & Alex
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[11:56:49] <Alex> is there a client which supports invites for a complete group?
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[12:05:13] <Tobias> so many meeting participants ;)
[12:05:29] <Alex> yup, I had to restart the server
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[12:05:46] <Astro> narf, 404 with jabber.org
[12:05:58] <Astro> Alex: Gajim supports group invitations
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[12:06:22] <peter82084> oops
[12:06:35] <Alex> :)
[12:08:02] <Alex> lets wait some minutes until people reconenct after the restart
[12:08:35] <Tobias> yep
[12:13:29] <Alex> server is still under high load
[12:14:16] <Alex> 5 more minutes then I start
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[12:16:43] <Alex> cpu does down, back to normal
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[12:16:46] <Tobias> hehe
[12:17:16] <Tobias> stpeter: is the spike really that big?
[12:17:23] <peter82084> no :)
[12:17:44] <peter82084> I like to joke about it
[12:18:50] <Alex> OK, lets start, I don't think more people will join
[12:19:09] Alex bangs the gavel
[12:19:11] <Alex> http://alex.ag-software.de/gavel.mp3
[12:19:40] <Alex> here is our Agenda for today:
http://www.xmpp.org/xsf/members/meetings/2008-02-07.shtml
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[12:20:13] <Alex> 1) Call for Quorum
[12:20:23] <Alex> The following 36 XSF members voted via proxy
[12:20:32] <Alex> so we have already a quorum
[12:20:39] <peter82084> ah good
[12:20:49] <peter82084> I think we need to recruit more members
[12:21:05] <Alex> we have 47 right now
[12:21:22] <Alex> some only on the wiki, some more active :D
[12:21:28] <Alex> 2) Items Subject to a Vote
[12:22:04] <Alex> new and returning members, you can see the applications here on the wiki page:
http://wiki.jabber.org/index.php/Membership_Applications_January_2008
[12:22:23] <Alex> 3) Opportunity for XSF Members to Vote in the Meeting
[12:23:01] <Alex> all of you voted already via memberbot.
[12:23:07] <Alex> Am I correct?
[12:23:13] <peter82084> I think so
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[12:23:32] <Tobias> yup
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[12:23:53] <Alex> OK, let me prepare and publish the results
[12:24:03] Alex counts
[12:25:14] <Alex> ok
[12:25:18] <Alex> 4) Announcement of Voting Results
[12:25:45] <Alex> if you refresh teh webpage you can see the results
[12:25:46] <Alex> http://www.xmpp.org/xsf/members/meetings/2008-02-07.shtml
[12:25:58] <Tobias> wow...seems that Solarius is the first who isn't accepted ;)
[12:26:11] <stpeter> Tobias: :P
[12:26:21] <stpeter> Tobias: it has happened in the past, but not frequently
[12:26:42] <Alex> yes, all new and returning members except of solarius were accepted
[12:26:59] <Tobias> stpeter: maybe...but i don't remember it. of course i'm not that long active in the XMPP community ;)
[12:27:02] <Alex> was close 16/20
[12:27:15] <stpeter> Tobias: yeah, it was some years ago
[12:28:40] <stpeter> so
[12:28:48] <stpeter> any other business? :)
[12:28:54] <Astro> uh, I was too lazy
[12:29:11] <Alex> ya sorry, somebody interrupted me
[12:29:16] <Alex> 5) Any Other Business?
[12:29:39] <Tobias> what about more votings? :)
[12:30:17] <Alex> first you need a subject to vote on
[12:30:28] <stpeter> right
[12:31:00] <Alex> Tobias: join the council or board, there you can vote nearly every week ;-)
[12:31:00] <Tobias> Alex: of course...but it seems most is done either on standards, jdev ml or by the council :)
[12:31:11] <Tobias> Alex: ohhh...fun :)
[12:31:46] <Alex> I think we should have regular meetings again
[12:32:03] <stpeter> :)
[12:32:05] <Alex> have a group chat each month ot quarter about a specific topic
[12:32:20] <stpeter> you're right
[12:32:24] <Tobias> Alex: that would be nice too
[12:32:25] <Alex> then people can also build working groups and get some stuff done
[12:32:41] <Alex> I think this will speed up some progress
[12:32:48] <Alex> eg caps discussion ;-)
[12:33:19] <Tobias> Alex: so they don't spoil the standards ml with caps discussion? ;)
[12:33:55] <Alex> Both is fine, but I think a muc can be more produtive sometimes
[12:34:02] <Astro> public chatlogs + results on the list
[12:34:12] <Tobias> Astro: right
[12:35:34] <Alex> we could have a topic like xmpp.org webpages, integrating new logo and design. Who ist interested should join, then we could have meetings about protocol stuff or marketing
[12:35:36] <Tobias> Alex: so? any best practice for working groups?
[12:36:08] <Alex> Tobias: no idea, we hade them before, but they disappeared
[12:36:24] <Alex> or at least most of them
[12:36:48] <Tobias> Alex: must be more than two years ago :)
[12:37:12] <Alex> Tobias: yes, I think 4 or more years
[12:37:44] <stpeter> yeah
[12:37:47] <stpeter> my fault
[12:37:48] <Tobias> a multicast wg would be nice too
[12:38:22] <Alex> ok
[12:38:26] <Alex> 6) Formal Adjournment
[12:38:39] <Alex> I motion that we adjourn
[12:39:11] <Tobias> yeah...this meeting already took to long if you take the number of participants in account :D
[12:39:13] <stpeter> second
[12:39:17] <stpeter> Tobias: :P
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[12:39:34] <Alex> ok, thanks
[12:39:47] <Alex> the discussion still can go on
[12:40:00] <Alex> just wanted to end the official part of the meeting ;-)
[12:40:01] <stpeter> naturally :)
[12:40:03] <Florian Jensen> evening, sorry i'm late .... train just arrived
[12:40:21] <stpeter> hmm, still 100% CPU on athena
[12:40:33] <Tobias> stpeter: all just ejabberd?
[12:41:14] <Tobias> will be interesting to see if there will be any performance improvement when 2.0 of ejabberd is out
[12:41:17] <stpeter> Tobias: yeah, that's the only thing running on there really, except for postgres and essential OS services
[12:41:53] <Florian Jensen> what about putting postgres on another machine?
[12:41:58] <Alex> stpeter: maybe a erlang pro could look at the dumps, its crashing more often again
[12:42:37] <Tobias> Florian Jensen: i doubt that the postgres load is that big :)
[12:42:38] <stpeter> Alex: yes, I think our P1 friends should do that
[12:44:37] <stpeter> so I'll ping them :)
[12:45:44] <Florian Jensen> what about clustering?
[12:45:56] <Florian Jensen> athena and the new machine?
[12:46:19] Alex commited the pages to svn, and I hope we don't overwrite them again :D
[12:46:31] <stpeter> heh
[12:52:03] <Alex> need some food, BRB
[12:52:23] <Tobias> Alex: no link to the logs at http://www.xmpp.org/xsf/members/meetings/2008-02-07.shtml ?
[13:01:04] <stpeter> Alex: me too
[13:01:07] <stpeter> Tobias: I can fix that :)
[13:01:22] <Tobias> ok
[13:03:37] <stpeter> do you want the log link at the top or bottom? ;-)
[13:04:48] <Tobias> maybe next to the xmpp uri to the conference room itself
[13:04:50] <Tobias> or below
[13:05:01] <Tobias> it fits there best imo
[13:05:25] <stpeter> ok
[13:10:11] <stpeter> reload http://www.xmpp.org/xsf/members/meetings/2008-02-07.shtml
[13:10:18] <stpeter> erk
[13:10:19] <stpeter> typo
[13:10:49] <Tobias> yeah...like that :)
[13:10:50] <Tobias> thanks
[13:10:55] <stpeter> date is 200-02-07 :)
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