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[15:00:34] <ermine> in which cases i can include multiple <priority/> into <presence/>?
[15:00:51] <ralphm> in no cases
[15:05:27] <ermine> ralphm: i dont believe you
[15:05:35] <ralphm> ermine: that's fine
[15:05:47] <ermine> xsd says i can
[15:05:58] <ralphm> ermine: our schemas are not normative
[15:06:47] <ermine> ralphm: ok! where are proper data description?
[15:06:54] <Kev> The text of the RFC.
[15:07:17] <ralphm> ermine: so this could be fixed in the next version
[15:07:24] <ermine> ralphm: does it disallow insert multiple priorities?
[15:08:02] <ralphm> http://xmpp.org/rfcs/rfc6121.html#presence-initial-gen
[15:08:16] <ralphm> ermine: no, you should never have more than one priority element
[15:09:18] <ralphm> ermine: of course you could try inserting more, but nothing good will come from it
[15:10:25] <mathieui> what if you want a non-determinist priority? ^^
[15:10:43] <ralphm> mathieui: go away, you nasty man
[15:11:15] <ermine> ralphm: well, it is difficult to rely on sane brain when you want to refactor your xmpp library
[15:11:25] <ralphm> hehe
[15:12:33] <ralphm> ermine: but you definitely want to send a message to stpeter to have the schema corrected in the draft for Core -ter
[15:14:24] <ermine> ralphm: in fact i found those strange "maxOccurs=unbounded" in some places, so i cannot be sure in my sane brain
[15:14:54] <ralphm> well, for status it kinda makes sense because you can have multiple ones with a different xml:lang
[15:15:03] <ralphm> but for show and priority it is a bug
[15:15:17] <Link Mauve> I thought you could have multiple xml:lang ones even on maxOccurs='1'.
[15:15:36] <Link Mauve> Even though almost every implementation will fail on that.
[15:15:38] <ralphm> Link Mauve: I bow for your xsd fu
[15:16:21] <ralphm> Link Mauve: but that's kinda nasty, too. 'cause you could put the xml:lang on priority, too
[15:16:24] <ermine> yea, xml:lang for <thread/>
[15:16:38] <ermine> or for <show/>
[15:16:46] <ralphm> subliminal discussion threads. I like it!
[15:17:02] <ermine> refactoring is bad for health
[15:17:11] <ralphm> not with good unittests
[15:20:15] <ermine> i want suggest stperer to review maxOccurs=unbounded in pair with <xs:sequence> or <xs:choice>
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[17:51:16] <ermine> stpeter: hi, what do you thing about that above?
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[18:07:01] <stpeter> ermine: I'll take a look in a few minutes
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[18:26:58] <ermine> stpeter: i want to know if really there can be multiple threads, subjects, body, show, status, priority elements in their stanzas
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[19:06:23] <ermine> weird, privacy lists are Draft since 2007
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[20:57:43] <intosi> xnyhps: what exactly do you test for TLSA? Validity of the record, whether or not it is signed and if the cert presented by the server is indeed covered by the TLSA record?
[20:59:13] <xnyhps> Yes, it must be DNSSEC signed, and match the cert or the chain (depending on the type of the record).
[21:00:41] <xnyhps> Actually, I'm not sure the "DNSSEC signed" part counts for the "Verified" column...
[21:04:51] <intosi> xnyhps: thanks.
[21:06:31] <stpeter> ermine: IMHO the intent is for each message to have at most one <thread/> because it is used as a unique identifier, but the schema doesn't capture that correctly
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[21:09:50] <intosi> Anyway, it looks like I now have DNSSEC and TLSA configured right for my home server. \o/
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[21:36:46] <Asterix> Kev, Hi, did the XSF applied to GSOC? I see it's not in the ccepted list. Is it because it was refused or because it didn't applied?
[21:37:06] <Kev> It didn't apply.
[21:38:54] <Asterix> ok
[21:41:40] <Asterix> :'(
[21:41:55] <Asterix> what was the reson(s)?
[21:41:59] <Asterix> what was the reason(s)?
[21:43:03] <Kev> None of the ideas got completed in time.
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[21:47:06] <Asterix> ha ... I thought there was many ideas for the futur student to choose and propose a full proposal
[21:47:23] <Asterix> but ok, thanks for information
[21:47:46] <Kev> I think the BC and IoT lists were close to being full enough - but lacked discussion venues and lists of teaser tasks.
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