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[09:05:21] <> Hey people. Can I invite GTalk/GMail users (using Pidgin or another XMPP client) to a room on this server?
[09:07:17] <> if you have them in your friend's list , I believe it's possible
[09:07:34] <> 409: Conflict
[09:07:37] <> Damn.
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[09:08:24] <> I guess that means the user who wants to join the room is using a name already here
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[09:08:48] <> Hmm...
[09:09:50] <> I think the user must be member so he can be able to stay
[09:10:05] <> Let me create a new room, so that I do not pollute here. Appologies. Thank you for the positive thoughts.
[09:10:42] <> no problem at all ^_^
[09:11:08] <> ThurahT, thanks
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[09:24:23] <> l.dobrev: I've unsuccessfully tried that before. Though, I don't recall exactly, whether it was a general problem with the GTalk service or with the default client from Google. IIRC the default GTalk client does not support MUCs
[09:25:12] <> vilius: I'm only interested in GMail/GTalk as many users have one, not the actual xmpp-client or other infrastructure.
[09:25:56] <> I'm currently having some problems, but it seems it may be possible.
[09:26:48] <> many GTalk users use the default client and they inevitably use the Google's XMPP server
[09:28:27] <> vilius: The target group are users using Pidgin and possibly Android Xabber.
[09:29:25] <> anyway, I've heard Google is planning to stop support for XMPP federation (as part of GTalk merge/migration to Hangouts or something like that), so if that comes true, however broken the interop has been it will vanish altogether
[09:31:15] <> vilius: I've had bad experience with GTalk in the latest months: people constantly appearing online even with their phones turned off, problems sending messages to/from outside gtalk, but it's /relatively/ easy to switch from GTalk to another XMPP when not using GTalk's client.
[09:32:19] <> it is technically easy, but cumbersome if you have a lot of contacts. Similar to changing your phone number
[09:32:40] <> True. That's one thing I like very much in Pidgin.
[09:33:46] <> pidgin is just like a multi-SIM handset. If one of your operators goes out of business, that does not help much. Similarly, if Google shuts down interop, Pidgin won't be of much help
[09:34:57] <> hmmmmm.... looks like Diaspora is leaning strongly towards adding XMPP chat to their system. https://joindiaspora.com/posts/3639588
[09:34:59] <> I have multiple XMPP accounts, ICQ, MSN, Bonjour. So do most my peers.
[09:35:41] <> When jabber.org fails I do not necessarily find out immediately, because I can reach my peers in alternate ways.
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[09:43:09] <> Argh. I was trying to use groupchat.google.com as conference server. With conference.jabber.org it works (almost) flawless. I get occasional '409 Conflict' errors, but I get those with jabber@conference.jabber.org too.
[09:45:43] <> /me is pretty happy with this.
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[10:44:20] <> Sorry to enter/exit so frequently, but it seems the room thought my other identity was connected, so I kept receiving latest messages from the room. I had to connect/disconnect with another identity to see what the 'leave' XMPP stanza was and to manually send it using the Pidgin XMPP Console :)
[10:53:12] <> I think most ppl ignore join/parts.
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