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[00:29:05] <lemur> jabber.org is going down?
[00:52:46] <MattJ> It's running fine right now
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[01:09:59] <coward64512> Hi
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[01:11:06] <coward64512> from where I can download the jabber page
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[03:09:39] <lemur> that's weird
[03:10:12] <lemur> MattJ: where do I go to keep up to date on the jabber.org server upgrade
[03:10:46] <MattJ> lemur, updates will be posted to the website
[03:11:31] <lemur> /me goes to jabber.org
[03:13:57] <lemur> well I see the start page, but it's not exactly a news feed
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[03:14:12] <lemur> I suppose the announcements will go on there
[03:14:22] <lemur> ok wait
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[03:14:26] <lemur> I found the notices page
[03:14:37] <lemur> I think this is what I'm looking for
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[05:47:14] <hayes51635> maybe
[05:51:31] <hayes51635> new here
[05:51:38] <hayes51635> what brought me here?
[05:51:56] <hayes51635> well, me 2g iphone battery took a crap on me
[05:52:11] <hayes51635> so, stuck with old flip phone
[05:52:49] <hayes51635> unlocked/debranded and was looking for "smartphonish java aps for it
[05:52:55] <hayes51635> im was one
[05:53:19] <hayes51635> jabber seems to be where I was dirrected
[05:54:07] <hayes51635> Hi
[05:54:27] <hayes51635> brb, baby crying
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[06:01:05] <lemur> interesting
[06:01:27] <hayes51635> very
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[06:06:14] <hayes51635> 10 years ago, at university, everyone used IM to chat.
[06:06:32] <hayes51635> Now I just chat with my sister on msn every now and again.
[06:06:52] <hayes51635> no one else is there, or they changed handles
[06:07:28] <hayes51635> "facebook" seems to be where most peeps are.
[06:07:38] <hayes51635> but I don't have a fb acount
[06:07:48] <hayes51635> so...
[06:08:08] <hayes51635> netstat -a
[06:08:56] <hayes51635> nuthin happening here
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[10:34:34] <wilson63774> slt
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[11:14:18] <harding42710> hey! tell me about someone he knew when it would be available in the final version of kbot because I have and I can not use
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[13:58:02] <brianjmurrell> Kev: around?
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[13:58:20] <louiz’> aha
[13:59:50] <Kev_> Seems I am.
[14:00:20] <brianjmurrell> Kev_: so, i've moved the jabber server that was having a problem with jabber.org accounts to a new server and now it's running jabberd2 2.2.8 and the problem with jabber.org accounts persists. i wonder if you got anywhere with your log spelunking yesterday.
[14:01:48] <Kev_> Nowhere. Let me look again now.
[14:03:49] <Tanguy> Is jabberd2 not a bit outdated for a Jabber server?
[14:04:04] <Kev_> It's not particularly actively developed, but it's maintained, I believe.
[14:04:36] <brianjmurrell> it's what was readily available on Ubuntu, currently.
[14:06:02] <Tanguy> Only?
[14:06:09] <Kev_> brianjmurrell: I se this:
[14:06:10] <Kev_> Aug 30 07:44:45 hermes xmppd[15734]: D-MBOX-Auth closed receiving s2s connection to domain jabber.klug.on.ca [216.58.37.5] (*connection closed*) Aug 30 07:44:45 hermes xmppd[15734]: D-MBOX-Auth closed receiving s2s connection to domain jabber.klug.on.ca [216.58.37.5] (*connection closed*) Aug 30 07:44:45 hermes xmppd[15734]: D-MBOX-Auth closed receiving s2s connection to domain jabber.klug.on.ca [67.193.214.242] (system-shutdown) Aug 30 07:47:45 hermes xmppd[15734]: D-MBOX-Auth closed authoritative s2s connection to domain jabber.klug.on.ca [67.193.214.242] (system-shutdown) Aug 30 07:47:45 hermes xmppd[15734]: D-MBOX-Auth closed receiving s2s connection to domain jabber.klug.on.ca [67.193.214.242] (system-shutdown) Aug 30 07:47:45 hermes xmppd[15734]: D-MBOX-Auth closed originating s2s connection to domain jabber.klug.on.ca [216.58.37.5] (*connection closed*)
[14:06:24] <Tanguy> I think ejabberd and prosody should be available too.
[14:06:30] <brianjmurrell> Kev_: oh. i wonder if you have stale RRs for that. :-(
[14:06:43] <Kev_> Those timestamps are GMT.
[14:07:02] <Tanguy> GMT is obsolete, this is UTC.
[14:08:01] <brianjmurrell> oh. no, those are the new IPs. i wonder if the firewall got reset in the last few hours. let me get the rules into the rulebase and re-apply. sorry about this... certainly firewall was not a/the problem on the old machine. it's been static for a long, long time...
[14:08:23] <Kev_> brianjmurrell: Those log lines suggest the server was shut down and it closed the streams.
[14:08:38] <Kev_> But note that there's a full set there, so S2S should have been working fine prior to that.
[14:17:28] <brianjmurrell> Kev_: ok. i just verified the firewall connections (by making a connection from external) and it should be good now. but still can't send a message from jabber.org to my server
[14:17:37] <brianjmurrell> tried just now
[14:18:27] <Kev_> Yet I see nothing in the last 5 hours or so in the logs.
[14:21:29] <Kev_> OK, my server can S2S to you fine.
[14:22:11] <Kev_> Oh, you're reachable by IPv6.
[14:23:13] <Kev_> Hrmm, you resolve by v6, but not listening?
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[14:23:45] <Kev_> I wonder if the v6ness is confusing matters here.
[14:24:03] <Kev_> ksmith@hermes:~$ telnet 2001:4978:161:0:21f:c6ff:fec4:926a 5269 Trying 2001:4978:161:0:21f:c6ff:fec4:926a... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused
[14:24:47] <Kev_> So you're advertising v6 support that you don't have, I think.
[14:25:16] <Kev_> I suspect that the ancient version of the software we've got on jabber.org doesn't fall back from v6 to v4 on the same host, only between SRV records.
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[14:32:14] <brianjmurrell> ok. well, the ipv6ness is new with this new host and was not part of the equation before i moved it. it seems jabberd2 does not listen on the v6 address. :-(
[14:32:36] <brianjmurrell> Kev_: fwiw, i got this in my s2s log: Thu Aug 30 10:22:54 2012 [notice] [17] [208.68.163.216, port=34248] incoming connection Thu Aug 30 10:22:56 2012 [notice] [17] [208.68.163.216, port=34248] error: XML parse error (not well-formed (invalid token)) Thu Aug 30 10:22:56 2012 [notice] [17] [208.68.163.216, port=34248] disconnect, packets: 0
[14:32:45] <buchanan49584> hallo kann einer hier deutsch
[14:34:26] <Kev_> brianjmurrell: That was me using telnet over v4.
[14:34:33] <brianjmurrell> oh right. lol.
[14:36:47] <buchanan49584> leute ich kann nicht beim jabber register kann einer ir helfen
[14:40:52] <brianjmurrell> Kev_: when i send a message to a jabber.org user from my server, i definitely see the s2s traffic (i.e. tcpdump). when the jabber.org user sends me a message, no s2s traffic. but the jabber.org user also doesn't see my user as online. would that prevent the jabber.org server from even trying to deliver the message?
[14:41:04] <Kev_> It wouldn't.
[14:41:22] <Kev_> If you send a message to the jabber.org user, do they receive it?
[14:41:26] <brianjmurrell> yes
[14:41:28] <Kev_> Does your user see the jabber.org user online?
[14:41:33] <brianjmurrell> no
[14:41:41] <Kev_> So this does sound like one-sided S2S.
[14:42:36] <brianjmurrell> it does
[14:42:36] <brianjmurrell> it does, indeed.
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[14:45:01] <brianjmurrell> Kev_: ahhhh. just toggled the users presence on my server and now the jabber.org user sees my user online, but still no messages from jabber.org user to my are being delivered and there is no expected s2s traffic when the jabber.org user sends my user a message.
[14:45:32] <Kev_> Right.
[14:45:35] <Kev_> This is consistent.
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[14:46:31] <brianjmurrell> Kev_: yes, indeed.
[14:47:08] <Kev_> It looks like it thinks it established S2S at about 07:50 this morning, and hasn't lost it since.
[14:47:33] <Kev_> So I suspect something happened to this link and it's routing into a black hole.
[14:47:44] <brianjmurrell> yeah. i do see established S2S from your server(s) here also
[14:48:08] <Kev_> So this is a bit of a mystery.
[14:48:10] <brianjmurrell> i can shut down my s2s server here and see if your end gets a connreset if you like.
[14:48:35] <Kev_> I'm not sure to what extent that would help. Restarting jabber.org would probably help, but I'm not keen on doing that.
[14:48:58] <brianjmurrell> well, it would verify that your end is not routing into a blackhole
[14:49:12] <Kev_> Only if this end notices it.
[14:49:17] <brianjmurrell> since it would get the TCP FIN/RST from me and shutdown it's end
[14:51:51] <brianjmurrell> ok. all of my jabber processes are stopped. it would be interesting now to see if your server shows the s2s connection closed
[14:52:12] <Kev_> Aug 30 14:51:43 hermes xmppd[15734]: D-MBOX-Auth closed originating s2s connection to domain jabber.klug.on.ca [216.58.37.5] (*connection closed*) Aug 30 14:51:43 hermes xmppd[15734]: D-MBOX-Auth closed receiving s2s connection to domain jabber.klug.on.ca [67.193.214.242] (system-shutdown) Aug 30 14:51:43 hermes xmppd[15734]: D-MBOX-Auth closed authoritative s2s connection to domain jabber.klug.on.ca [67.193.214.242] (system-shutdown)
[14:52:38] <brianjmurrell> so, your side is not routing into a black hole
[14:52:49] <Kev_> Possibly.
[14:52:58] <Kev_> It depends which local domains those were closed for.
[14:53:12] <Kev_> Which, unhelpfully, isn't logged.
[14:53:39] <brianjmurrell> ok. let me start things back up here and see what, if anything, changes.
[14:53:46] <Kev_> Wait a sace.
[14:53:48] <Kev_> *sec
[14:53:50] <brianjmurrell> sure
[14:54:23] <Kev_> Yeah, OK.
[14:54:30] <Kev_> I now get an error discoing your server, instead of it waiting forever.
[14:54:35] <Kev_> Start her up.
[14:55:19] <brianjmurrell> ok. jabber.org user sees my user back online.
[14:55:37] <Kev_> And I was able to disco you OK.
[14:55:42] <Kev_> So twoway S2S seems to be working.
[14:55:45] <brianjmurrell> yeah
[14:55:51] <brianjmurrell> messages going in both directions
[14:56:10] <brianjmurrell> really odd
[15:06:17] <brianjmurrell> Kev_: anyway, thanks so much for your patience and attention. much appreciated.
[15:06:27] <Kev_> I'm sorry we didn't really get an explanation.
[15:06:44] <brianjmurrell> yeah. me too. always leaves me wondering if/when it will happen again.
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[15:26:49] <brianjmurrell> Kev_: ok. listening on ipv6 (also) now, fwiw.
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[16:32:52] <psa> interesting, Thunderbird 15 now supports IM
[16:33:27] <psa> https://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/new-thunderbird-15#w_instant-messaging-chat-using-twitter-gtalk-irc-and-xmpp
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[16:34:32] <brianjmurrell> too late though? funny enough that somebody here mentioned in the last 24h about how nobody uses IM (xmpp or otherwise i'd guess) anymore and everyone uses FB chat. my xmpp/msn buddy lists used to be teeming. they are pretty desolate now.
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[16:35:20] <psa> brianjmurrell: hey, Thunderbird also supports IRC now, too!
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[16:36:27] <brianjmurrell> IRC? does that have anything to do with those big black discs that play music, somehow? :-) j/k of course. i use IRC all the time. i also use e-mail a lot too, something else the kids seems to have given up on.
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[16:38:22] <louiz’> I have the chance to have friends who use IRC (in addition to facebook…), even if they are kids (well, not old, at least). This way I can use only XMPP, e-mails and IRC to talk with people
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[23:00:25] <wilson1984> hello
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[23:28:13] <buchanan49670> hi
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[23:41:17] <coolidge63315> hi
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