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[06:27:12] <myth> /me في حدا عربي هون
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[06:29:38] <myth> /me Good morning
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[06:33:29] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> .
[06:34:57] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> /me Is there one here
[06:36:09] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> /me His Roman Are you okay
[06:36:57] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> Assistant Is Here
[06:37:08] <Alex> yes
[06:37:12] <Alex> whats your problem?
[06:38:02] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> Alex:
[06:38:12] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> Finally I was tired of screaming
[06:38:51] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> Alex: How are you my brother
[06:40:01] <Alex> I am fine, but I don't think we are brothers ;-)
[06:40:09] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> :-( I am bad for this degree
[06:41:36] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> We are all very good sons of Adam and Eve
[06:42:33] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> ;-) Does not it
[06:43:56] <Alex> not for me, but this soesn't matter here. This is a room for serious XMPP discussions, not smalltalk
[06:43:59] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> /me :JOKINGLY: Can we know?
[06:46:05] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> Alex:
[06:46:21] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> /me :-( Unfortunately, but I love that I call my brother because all the young people do not have young brothers
[06:49:28] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> Alex: Do you speak Arabic
[06:50:39] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> /me Possible to be introduced
[06:51:21] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> /me :dntknw: Zzzz
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[06:52:17] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> /me Alex:
[06:53:54] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> No one from what I'm talking with him and gives me Qila of his time
[06:55:47] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> .
[06:56:25] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> /me No one from what I'm talking with him and gives me Qila of his time
[06:57:38] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> /me Thus, the guest reception here
[06:58:23] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> @}->-- ThanksAlex:
[06:59:00] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> /me @}->-- Bay
[06:59:52] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> /me See you later
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[13:18:06] <jonkri> I'm looking for some guidance on how to implement SCRAM-SHA-1-PLUS in an XMPP client library. Are there any articles or examples that someone can recommend?
[13:18:25] <jonkri> Besides the RFC's, of course. :-)
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[13:25:48] <Kev> I'm not sure you need more than the RFCs, do you?
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[13:33:18] <jonkri> Maybe not.
[13:33:21] <jonkri> I'm not sure what "cbind-data" to set for tls-unique. Should it be the Base64-encoded TLS Finished struct?
[13:34:33] <Tobias> Kev, well..it'S not always that obvious which methods you need to call to get the right data from openssl
[13:35:00] <Kev> Tobias: Oh, right. Yes, that's true.
[13:35:35] <Kev> jonkri: There's http://swift.im/git/swift/tree/Swiften/SASL/SCRAMSHA1ClientAuthenticator.cpp if you're GPLv3.
[13:36:30] <jonkri> I'm using Apache 2 (and Haskell).
[13:36:43] <Kev> Then you won't want to copy that implementation :)
[13:37:43] <Tobias> one doesn't need to...SCRAM-SHA-1 is pretty straightforward to implement....much better than digest-md5 :D
[13:37:57] <Kev> Well, it's impossible to implement DIGEST-MD5.
[13:38:08] <Kev> You either end up with a bug, or you end up not interoperating.
[13:38:30] <jonkri> Tobias: We already have a SCRAM-SHA-1 implementation. All I'm looking for to do is to implement the -PLUS variant.
[13:38:36] <Tobias> Kev, what bug?
[13:38:57] <Tobias> jonkri, what SSL lib do you use?
[13:38:58] <Kev> Oh, I don't remember offhand. There's some truly bizarre rule about encoding that everyone ignores.
[13:39:14] <Tobias> Kev, right..that's just encoding madness
[13:39:34] <Tobias> we had to reduce featureset for digest-md5 so we'd be compatible
[13:40:00] <jonkri> Tobias: I'm using http://hackage.haskell.org/package/tls. Our SCRAM implementation is here: https://github.com/jonkri/pontarius-xmpp/blob/master/source/Network/Xmpp/Sasl/Mechanisms/Scram.hs
[13:40:13] <jonkri> s/I'm/We're
[13:40:31] <Tobias> just because HTTP digest-md5 poisend the SASL digest-md5
[13:40:51] <Tobias> jonkri, 404 for your first link
[13:41:27] <jonkri> Sorry about that. Just remove the dot.
[13:41:49] <Tobias> stupid swift adding the . to the link ^^
[13:42:23] <Tobias> jonkri, so it's a complete haskell-only implementation?
[13:43:00] <jonkri> Tobias: Yes.
[13:44:09] <Tobias> you've probably already read https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5929#section-3.1 ,right?
[13:45:29] <jonkri> Tobias: Yes. It's from that I made the guess that "cbind-data" should be the Base64-encoded TLS Finished struct, as I mentioned above.
[13:45:49] <Tobias> yeah..have you tried that?
[13:46:48] <jonkri> No, not yet. Which brings me to my other question: Are there any free software XMPP servers that supports SCRAM-SHA-1-PLUS, so that I can test my code?
[13:47:25] <Tobias> Kev, does jabber.org support scram-sha-1-plus?
[13:47:44] <Kev> It's not Free software ;)
[13:48:01] <Tobias> Kev, that's not an answer to my question :)
[13:48:01] <Kev> Certainly the code does, although I've got this feeling it's disabled at the moment for no good reason on jabber.org
[13:49:42] <Tobias> /me needs to some sasl for for prosody again sometime
[13:49:49] <Tobias> /me needs to do some sasl for for prosody again sometime
[13:53:07] <jonkri> I guess I'm looking to use the bytes in [ https://github.com/vincenthz/hs-tls/blob/master/Network/TLS/Struct.hs#L241 ]. ;-)
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[13:54:09] <Tobias> jonkri, in case it helps, this is what swiften calls on openssl http://swift.im/git/swift/tree/Swiften/TLS/OpenSSL/OpenSSLContext.cpp#n260
[13:54:51] <jonkri> Kev, Tobias: Thanks for your help!
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[14:13:06] <Kev> I should look at this at some point. Writing functional network stacks is interesting.
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[14:20:39] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> /me @}->-- Hello
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[14:59:52] <kilian> hey. is there a possibility to use some kind of encryption between the actual client and the xmpp server when connecting over BOSH?
[15:01:31] <Kev> Use BOSH over HTTPS, and use the server's internal BOSH implementation rather than an external one.
[15:02:19] <Kev> Unless you mean as a user where you don't trust the BOSH layer - in which case no, only use BOSH proxies that you trust (generally this means only the one run by your own server).
[15:03:30] <kilian> thank you Kev . so open boshs are "unsecure"
[15:03:48] <Kev> Correct.
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[18:49:00] <psa> BTW I fixed that bug in XEP-0012...
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[19:21:58] <Lance> on the topic of minor corrections to xeps: XEP-0133 has some copy paste errors in command names, mostly edit-whitelist iirc
[19:23:23] <psa> Lance: hmm, ok
[19:23:51] <psa> Lance: something for me to check on some upcoming evening
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[21:25:55] <guus> Is there a way to link to a permanent version of a XEP? I'd like to provide a URL to what is now the latest version of a XEP (but which might later change). The attic only appears to have older versions of XEPs, not the current one.
[21:28:01] <MattJ> Hmm
[21:28:08] <MattJ> I think currently not - though there is source control
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[21:28:28] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> hi
[21:28:30] <MattJ> http://gitorious.org/xmpp
[21:28:34] <MattJ> Hi
[21:29:16] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> How are you doing
[21:30:29] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> /me I need the help of the server Jabber.org
[21:30:46] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> /me I need the help of the server Jabber.org
[21:30:51] <MattJ> What's the problem?
[21:31:04] <guus> thanks MattJ. Not sure if that's all that usable for me though.
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[21:33:40] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> I want to be the highest bots on the server Jabber and ask for permission from the owner
[21:34:45] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> /me MattJ:
[21:37:09] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> MattJ: Are you with me
[21:40:50] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> I want to help you the most gloriously
[21:43:16] <•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> "<•∂bό ³3вό0όđ•> I want to help you the most gloriously" -
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[21:56:09] <guus> (In my book, you are most glorious)
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[21:59:02] <MattJ> Doh
[21:59:16] <MattJ> I missed a glorious offer by going for dinner
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[22:08:44] <McKael> :-)
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