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[04:30:16] <wilson62625> Hello?
[04:30:35] <wilson62625> I need help?!?
[04:31:02] <wilson62625> anybody
[04:31:34] <wilson62625> FINE BE DAT WAY, IF NOBODY GONNA HELP THEN JABBER SUCKS
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[04:34:55] <PaulFertser> lol
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[09:38:35] <PaulFertser> BTW, is Google aware that apparently their s2s broken?
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[11:18:38] <quincyadams43520> No connection to Jabber.org since a few days with iChat or 'Nachrichten'. ???
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[11:26:15] <Kev> If a client can't connect, it suggests a bug in the client.
[11:26:33] <Kev> Our network setup is currently unusual, but legal, and clients should connect fine (albeit it might take a couple of minutes).
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[11:56:21] <PaulFertser> I wonder who and how should report to Google that their setup is broken. I really doubt they will fix anything anytime soon though.
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[14:03:53] <polk42292> I was connected as 'quincyadams43520'. @Kev: Hello! The Problem with no connection to Jabber is on two different Macs and different Networks.
[14:04:20] <Kev> That doesn't stop it being a client problem.
[14:04:30] <Kev> You're chatting on the server right now, it's certainly up.
[14:06:15] <polk42292> But IM doesn't work.
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[14:10:18] <Kev> It certainly doens't if you use a client with a bug that stops it connecting, no.
[14:12:06] <junai> hello
[14:14:21] <junai> i use pidgin on win7, have a jabber.org account and for 3 days only few jabber contacts of mine appear as offline with the message 404: remote server not found. both of those contacts are on (different) private servers and are actually online (other people can see them). do you have any idea what could be the problem?
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[14:19:58] <Kev> It could be those servers have a bug that stops them dealing with SRV records correctly.
[14:20:10] <Kev> I've seen at least one report of Openfire having such a bug.
[14:20:52] <junai> did something change in the past 3 days? before, everything worked just fine
[14:21:05] <Kev> Yes, our DNS configuration has temporarily changed.
[14:21:57] <junai> will it be changed back soon or do I need to talk with them about the servers they are on?
[14:22:03] <jefferson48748> Have noticed some DNS systems do not have the update SRV records
[14:22:06] <Kev> So if servers can't connect to jabber.org any more I'd suggest you encourage the admins to submit bug reports against their software saying something like "Server to server connections don't correctly fall back through SRV if the first host times out".
[14:22:31] <Kev> junai: It will be changed at some point, but that won't stop their servers having bugs that could cause problems in the future.
[14:23:39] <junai> ah i see, thanks!
[14:24:55] <Kev> We were subject to a DDoS attack at the weekend, and had to make some changes to deal with this.
[14:25:36] <Kev> So that's the reason for the changes. We needed to leave things in a state where they'd work for compliant clients/servers, but that the DoS attack would keep targetting something that wouldn't hurt us.
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[14:59:46] <junai> i see, thanks for the help!
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[18:47:08] <anonymous43140> I see there was some discussion about the recent problems. However, has anything been said about connection issues via bitlbee?
[18:47:36] <PaulFertser> anonymous43140: yes
[18:48:08] <anonymous43140> PaulFertser: then I probably missed it, would you mind repeating the gist of it?
[18:48:12] <PaulFertser> anonymous43140: it looks like a bug in bitlbee but i was able to connect with testing.bitlbee.org after several full connections/disconnections to the server (account off was not enough).
[18:49:40] <anonymous43140> hm … tricky situation. That probably means I'll have to get a newer version, then. Thanks :)
[18:50:02] <PaulFertser> anonymous43140: if it's fixed
[18:50:42] <anonymous43140> At least it's worth a try
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[20:28:10] <psa> ok we are back online, hopefully no repeat of the problem
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[20:34:58] <Kev> It was an interesting experiment in "how many broken implementations are there?" anyway.
[20:35:48] <psa> heehee
[20:35:52] <psa> that's one way to look at it :)
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[20:35:59] <Kev> Swift got fixed.
[20:36:06] <psa> Kev: by "broken" you mean not supporting SRV correctly
[20:36:20] <psa> or reconnect?
[20:36:22] <psa> or other?
[20:36:37] <Kev> Yes. Or in Swift's case having timeouts per login request, rather than per connection, so the first attempt timed out causing future attempts to not happen.
[20:36:46] <psa> ah
[20:37:01] <Kev> But someone reported that Openfire wouldn't connect using the SRV setup. Google wouldn't either.
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[20:37:27] <Kev> Nor iChat.
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[20:37:56] <psa> right, I know iChat was a problem -- I will reach out to that team
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[21:16:32] <aRyo> .
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[22:32:54] <carter36872> hello'
[22:34:54] <psa> hi carter36872
[22:42:06] <carter36872> i want a lost password on jabber
[22:51:58] <psa> sorry, I stepped away for a few minutes
[22:52:17] <psa> carter36872: did you send me an email message about it? http://www.jabber.org/faq.html#password (also note that we had a serious outage over the last few days, please try to log in again)
[22:53:38] <psa> /me notices a typo on that page and corrects it
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[23:16:06] <coward34154> is there a jingle lib that support RTMP?
[23:25:54] <psa> coward34154: hmm
[23:26:01] <psa> coward34154: I am not sure
[23:26:12] <psa> coward34154: it's probably best to ask on the jingle@xmpp.org discussion list
[23:26:22] <psa> http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/jingle
[23:29:23] <coward34154> thanks
[23:34:37] <psa> sure thing
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[23:39:50] <taylor3868> hi folks
[23:39:50] <psa> bbiab, time to cook dinner :)
[23:40:12] <psa> taylor3868: hi, can we help you?
[23:40:26] <taylor3868> since like 5 days ago I can't join any muc room on jabber.org from any pther xmpp server I use.
[23:40:46] <psa> we had a major outage, denial of service attack, is it working now?
[23:40:55] <taylor3868> nope
[23:41:14] <taylor3868> funny thing is I get no error or anything.
[23:41:22] <taylor3868> just a black hole.
[23:42:20] <taylor3868> the debug log show nothing of interest either. At least I can't spot any error messages.
[23:43:06] <taylor3868> oh.. btw.. could anyone voice that poor guy at the bottom..
[23:43:49] <ThurahT> thankx
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[23:44:02] <psa> might need to wait for a server restart here
[23:44:03] <psa> anyway
[23:44:04] <psa> bbiab
[23:44:15] <ThurahT> ok. Have good one.