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[02:26:50] <eisenhower55172> hey guys
[02:27:16] <eisenhower55172> i have question
[02:29:36] <eisenhower55172> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy\
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[06:03:31] <ford44369> hi guys
[06:03:54] <ford44369> im having difficulties of chatting with my office mate~
[06:04:01] <ford44369> configuration is pretty much simple
[06:04:28] <ford44369> using xmpp client as Pandion and point to jabber.org port 5222
[06:04:50] <ford44369> the connection is successful~ i can add other people into my friend list
[06:05:05] <ford44369> but, we all : unable to chat with each other
[06:05:14] <ford44369> any idea what is causing the problem?
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[16:34:42] <cleveland43600> hi, last month, I was able to join jabber.org with my gtalk, but today, I can't see online status. After gtalk accepted request, I can write from jabber to gtalk, but I can't answer. I always appear offline and waiting for authorization.
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[16:35:51] <stpeter> hmm
[16:36:07] <stpeter> cleveland43600: sometimes we have problems with communication to Google Talk
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[16:37:07] <cleveland43600> so the trouble comes and goes?
[16:37:47] <stpeter> yes
[16:38:33] <stpeter> basically jabber.org and gmail.com disagree about whether jabber.org is actually online -- we think we are, but gmail.com doesn't, so it won't connect to us in one direction, thus you don't see your contacts online etc.
[16:40:37] <cleveland43600> ok, I use jabber to monitor my asterisk and send me IM to my gtalk when I receive call. It's working good, but today I've got this bug. I deleted my buddies and re-sync it, but I have the same issue.
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[16:41:04] <stpeter> if we restart jabber.org, then gtalk wakes up, but that means everyone who is connected to jabber.org will be disconnected
[16:41:41] <cleveland43600> sure, I work in IT I understand it :)
[16:41:45] <stpeter> :)
[16:42:13] <cleveland43600> thanks for answer
[16:42:21] <stpeter> sure, we're here for you :)
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[17:43:23] <bush16819> hi
[17:44:18] <bush16819> i can't login on my new jabber account using empathy on Pinguy OS 11.04
[17:45:31] <bush16819> it could be for my strange username and password
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[17:47:02] <bush16819> the username contain uppercase letters and lowercase letters
[17:48:13] <bush16819> the password is 128 chars lenght
[17:48:21] <ThurahT> 128?
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[17:48:26] <ThurahT> wow.. : )
[17:48:50] <ThurahT> I don't think the upper/lower case letters are a problem though..
[17:48:59] <bush16819> i want to be really sure
[17:51:10] <bush16819> there's someone knows the limits for username and password for jabber ?
[17:51:14] <ThurahT> yes
[17:51:25] <ThurahT> they are here.. and will answer when they can
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[17:52:53] <bush16819> uhm, i must close this chat around h 21.30
[17:53:35] <ThurahT> CET?
[17:53:52] <bush16819> i'm writing from italy
[17:54:06] <ThurahT> k
[17:54:29] <bush16819> i read from my terminal "CEST"
[17:55:05] <Link Mauve> bush16819, an username can be up to 1023 characters, and passwords don’t have a limit.
[17:55:27] <bush16819> thank you Link Mauve
[17:55:49] <ThurahT> limitless.. that can't be true..
[17:56:00] <ThurahT> ; )
[17:56:02] <Link Mauve> That’s what I remember, but check the RFC, just to be sure.
[17:56:20] <Link Mauve> ThurahT, any server can have more restrictions, that’s just from the specs.
[17:56:35] <bush16819> so now i don't know whatever fail my login
[17:56:35] <bush16819> fails
[17:57:03] <ThurahT> yeah, I just thought mathematically..
[17:58:19] <bush16819> what's RFC? (R=? F=? C=?)
[17:58:36] <ThurahT> request for comments
[17:59:17] <ThurahT> http://xmpp.org/xmpp-protocols/rfcs/
[17:59:38] <bush16819> are RCF on jabber site? oh, thanks for the link!
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[18:00:43] <bush16819> does someone have other idea for my login problem?
[18:01:05] <ThurahT> what is the error message? Could be a client problem
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[18:02:04] <bush16819> emphaty writes "network error"
[18:02:54] <ThurahT> that wasn't very informative. Does it have an error console or smthng?
[18:03:15] <ThurahT> or a debug logger?
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[18:09:16] <reagan2409> that's appear on the emphaty window
[18:10:23] <ThurahT> well, that could be anything really.. I don't know empathys error messages.
[18:11:04] <reagan2409> i think i could try another client; do you suggest someone else very easy to configure / use ?
[18:12:14] <ThurahT> there are some clients that tries to be easy to use, http://swift.im maybe?
[18:12:54] <reagan2409> i'm going to look it
[18:13:41] <ThurahT> other that that I can recommend gajim and pidgin.
[18:14:31] <reagan2409> my impression: swift seems not early developed (it remains ubuntu 10.10)
[18:15:27] <reagan2409> can i use ThunderBird too ?
[18:15:41] <ThurahT> that's an emial client
[18:17:00] <ThurahT> did you mean instantbird.com ?
[18:17:45] <reagan2409> yes, it is but i remember something that it could be IM client. Excuse me if i'm wrong. Yeah: i'm going to look instanbird.
[18:18:08] <ThurahT> ah, didn't know that
[18:21:09] <reagan2409> i'm afraid istantbird could be not enough updated and the problem is... the download file is a tar.gz file ! i'm going to try pidgin. Do you stay on line?
[18:21:38] <ThurahT> I'm here
[18:22:00] <reagan2409> ok, thank you.
[18:22:29] <reagan2409> i hope that i will not be disconnected as before
[18:22:37] <ThurahT> pidgin latest is 2.10.6
[18:23:09] <stpeter> /me notes that future versions of Thunderbird will have IM integrated into the client
[18:23:12] <reagan2409> ok i'm going to try to install it
[18:23:46] <ThurahT> stpeter: ah, cool. the now community driven email client.
[18:24:37] <reagan2409> well
[18:24:42] <ThurahT> was it a real xmpp client or for email providers like gtalk?
[18:25:19] <reagan2409> i don't know
[18:26:02] <reagan2409> it could be for email providers like gtalk
[18:27:55] <reagan2409> be patience i'm using a mobile phone with no high speed internet connection
[18:30:04] <reagan2409> if i will be disconnected i say now you can call me "pistolinux001"
[18:33:58] <reagan2409> are you there? i'm trying to configure my jabber account on pidgin !
[18:34:08] <ThurahT> I'm here.
[18:34:43] <reagan2409> in the basic tab...
[18:35:19] <reagan2409> i don't know how to set "domain", "resource".
[18:35:42] <stpeter> ignore "resource"
[18:35:51] <ThurahT> username is only the name. Domain is jabber.org
[18:36:00] <stpeter> "domain" is the domain name of the service where your account is located, such as "jabber.org"
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[18:36:27] <reagan2409> ok, i'm going to set they.
[18:37:16] <reagan2409> in the "user options"...
[18:37:52] <ThurahT> that is just what you want to call yourself. Can be same as Username.
[18:38:10] <ThurahT> or smthng else. Doesn't matter.
[18:38:11] <reagan2409> ...i don't know how to set "local alias": what's?
[18:38:19] <ThurahT> ^
[18:38:40] <stpeter> /me wonders why Pidgin's configuration requires so much information
[18:38:54] <ThurahT> : )
[18:39:23] <ThurahT> think it's the way purple is designed.
[18:39:52] <MattJ> Local Alias can be anything you want, it's the name Pidgin shows for you for that account
[18:40:12] <reagan2409> do i let like are just now the "advanced" and the "proxy" tab?
[18:40:23] <MattJ> Yes, you shouldn't need to change those
[18:41:57] <reagan2409> now pidgin says me "avaible"
[18:42:20] <reagan2409> my pidgin version is 2.7.11
[18:42:28] <ThurahT> oh.. that is ancient..
[18:43:00] <ThurahT> a lot of bugs fixed since that..
[18:43:17] <reagan2409> i think i have to add the PPA
[18:43:54] <reagan2409> by the way
[18:44:27] <reagan2409> ...can i add you to my contatcts? how can i do it?
[18:44:52] <ThurahT> menu. Buddies -> Add Buddy
[18:46:47] <reagan2409> your username is the same i can see on this web-chat?
[18:47:47] <ThurahT> no. In this case username is the whole JID which consists of name@domain
[18:49:31] <ThurahT> Alias is what you want to see as their name in you Buddy List
[18:50:02] <reagan2409> oh, i have to correct the username
[18:51:04] <reagan2409> ...but i don't find how to do it!
[18:51:25] <reagan2409> the contact doesn't appear
[18:52:34] <ThurahT> check menu Buddies->Show
[18:52:43] <reagan2409> please tell me your JID
[18:53:03] <ThurahT> thuraht@jabber.org
[18:54:39] <reagan2409> ok, i try
[18:56:25] <reagan2409> i think i see you on pidgin
[18:56:26] <ThurahT> that was indeed a weird username you got there.. : )
[18:56:56] <ThurahT> you have to authorize me back so make it successful.
[18:57:32] <ThurahT> but, yeah.. seems like everything works for you now.
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[18:58:16] <quincyadams53461> hi
[18:59:54] <ThurahT> hi
[18:59:56] <quincyadams53461> msg from user -> server -> sent to all users in a channel but like msg from user -> no. of users / 10 (just an example) -> each user forwarding the message to another -> so if 10 users in a channel it goes like -> msg -> to 1 user -> to 10 users -> and those 10 users sending it to further 10 users. and if a firewall or nat is giving a problem for connection. it tries through another client or through the server.
[19:00:06] <quincyadams53461> is this possible ^
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[19:04:13] <stpeter> quincyadams53461: we haven't defined chaining like that, although you could do something similar using Multi-User Chat (XEP-0045) or Publish-Subscribe (XEP-0060)
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[19:10:52] <quincyadams53461> hm
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[19:11:46] <quincyadams53461> iam new to xmpp. i want to use java and xmpp . and i want this. (while it would be primarily based on web and any one can come throught pc. mobile . etc) i want ads like google ads for example to show on the chat page dynamically respective to the chat the user is being having. :) further i want to seo it and keep the text available for searching in arhives.
[19:11:52] <quincyadams53461> can you guide me where to start
[19:16:03] <stpeter> not right now :)
[19:35:54] <quincyadams53461> ok
[19:40:04] <quincyadams53461> a xmpp protocol for irc style chat. and blending it with social networking (picture tages with nick names, updates if someone is your friend). which client for this wouldbe be better? (i know it has to be customised.. but for a start)?
[19:40:16] <quincyadams53461> anyone else?
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