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[17:01:38] <Yagiza> Hello!
[17:02:34] <Yagiza> Any1 alive here?
[17:03:44] <Zash_> No, all bots and/or zombies. ;)
[17:04:06] <Yagiza> Zash_, good
[17:04:46] <Yagiza> Can any1 tell me about Jingle?
[17:06:12] <MattJ> What do you want to know?
[17:06:18] <Yagiza> Is it possible to have different applications within one jingle session?
[17:06:22] <Zash_> Can anyone tell me about the massive space savings I can have by substituting 'one' with '1' ?
[17:07:44] <naw> Zash_: take a look to http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0239.html , it's related to your question
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[17:10:14] <Zash_> :D
[17:10:16] <Yagiza> MattJ, don't you know?
[17:10:38] <Zash_> Yagiza: I know as much as that you can have both audio and video in the same session
[17:10:49] <MattJ> Not without reading the XEP, you can have multiple contents
[17:10:49] <Yagiza> Yes
[17:11:37] <Yagiza> But both audio and video are the ame applicaion: urn:xmpp:jingle:apps:rtp:1
[17:11:39] <Zash_> http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0166.html
[17:12:07] <Yagiza> I just wonder if I can have different applications within one session.
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[17:13:18] <Yagiza> I didn't find any restrictions about it in XEP-0166, but I just can't imagine how different applications can share the same session.
[17:16:02] <Yagiza> Ah!
[17:16:21] <MattJ> If it's a problem - create a new session? :)
[17:16:29] <Yagiza> No
[17:17:31] <Yagiza> I just wonder what to do, if other patry will send me a session initiate request with both RTP and file transfer contents within one session?
[17:17:51] <MattJ> Ah right
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[17:18:06] <MattJ> There was discussion about that on the mailing lists quite some time back
[17:18:07] <Yagiza> Do I have to handle such strange requests, or just reject them?
[17:18:28] <MattJ> I think there may be a recommendation somewhere to avoid that kind of thing
[17:18:45] <Yagiza> Yeah
[17:18:52] <MattJ> I think it's reasonable to reject, and no sane client would generate
[17:18:57] <MattJ> and if that's not specified - it ought to be
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[17:20:02] <Yagiza> This is what XEP says: Application types ought not to be mixed beyond necessity within a single session. Therefore the session initiation request (along with subsequent additions) will include only content-types that can be grouped together into a coherent session within a given Jingle application. For example, two parties might start an audio call but then add a video aspect to that call. If one of the parties decides to send a file to the other party as a result of discussion over the audio/video session or a text chat conversation, conceptually that is probably a separate session (unless file exchange or screen sharing or some other application type is an integral part of a broader collaboration experience and needs to be calibrated with the audio/video session).
[17:20:17] <Yagiza> Application types ought not to be mixed beyond necessity within a single session. Therefore the session initiation request (along with subsequent additions) will include only content-types that can be grouped together into a coherent session within a given Jingle application. For example, two parties might start an audio call but then add a video aspect to that call. If one of the parties decides to send a file to the other party as a result of discussion over the audio/video session or a text chat conversation, conceptually that is probably a separate session (unless file exchange or screen sharing or some other application type is an integral part of a broader collaboration experience and needs to be calibrated with the audio/video session).
[17:20:44] <MattJ> Right, that's the text I was thinking of
[17:21:30] <Yagiza> So, it is not recommended, and the best practice is to reject such strange requests?
[17:22:28] <MattJ> It's not recommended, I would feel free to reject them
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[17:25:02] <Yagiza> MattJ, ok, thanx!
[17:25:11] <MattJ> Any time
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[18:38:58] <psa> /me spends his all-too-brief lunch time replying about RTT
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[19:13:53] <psa> ok, back to real work :)
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