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[19:27:06] <misha> why http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0200.html have been defered? seem it's what Gajim use for OTR encryption.
[19:28:53] <xnyhps> "Deferred" simply means it's experimental and hasn't been updated for more than 12 months.
[19:30:01] <misha> why it didn't get proposed further if it has working implementation?
[19:33:25] <xnyhps> /me shrugs.
[19:34:14] <xnyhps> Probably because there are other competing approaches to e2e encryption.
[19:34:47] <misha> link?
[19:35:26] <xnyhps> http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0027.html for example.
[19:35:30] <xnyhps> And OTR
[19:38:00] <misha> well, it's a little bit different...
[19:41:49] <xnyhps> Oh and https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-miller-xmpp-e2e-00
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[19:59:44] <misha> as far as i see it's not suitable for OTR ;-(
[20:00:56] <xnyhps> Why not?
[20:01:33] <xnyhps> Or: define what you mean with "OTR".
[20:02:57] <misha> OTR is the protocol which provide PFS, and it seems for me, that this e2e thing is more like usual PGP private/public key stuff...
[20:03:54] <misha> and i don't want people be able to *prove* that it's *I* was sending those messages :-)
[20:11:51] <xnyhps> Ah, yeah, I agree I dislike that about 0027 (not familiar with the others).
[20:12:04] <misha> http://www.ejabberd.im/mod_otr hehe, nice module
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