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[11:09:41] <Alex> can anybody recommend me a Jingle client which is working on windows?
[11:10:22] <Alex> I was trying several clients now without any sucess. Even Psi => Psi or Psi+ => Psi+ does not work for me
[11:10:39] <Alex> the only client I got working was Googles
[11:11:05] <akuckartz> Maybe the problem is not the client, but missing Jingle Nodes ?
[11:11:40] <Kev> Alex: Jitsi?
[11:12:17] <Alex> akuckartz: does Psi need Jingle nodes?
[11:12:39] <akuckartz> Try Jitsi if you have not done so yet.
[11:13:04] <Kev> Alex: Neither needs nor supports.
[11:13:06] <Alex> I have not tried Jitsi => Jitsi, this is what I try now. But at least Jitsi wasn't working against Psi and others here
[11:13:34] <Alex> /me downloads Jitsi to a second machine now
[11:15:16] <akuckartz> Depending on the network configurations a Jingle Node might be needed.
[11:15:55] <Alex> akuckartz: both machine in the Same Lan here
[11:16:27] <akuckartz> That *should* make it easy :-)
[11:16:51] <Kev> akuckartz: What makes you think that Jitsi supports Jingle nodes?
[11:17:21] <Kev> They certainly didn't very recently when they were advertising it as a GSoC project.
[11:17:28] <Alex> akuckartz: it should, but does not work for some reason
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[11:22:52] <akuckartz> @Kev Jitsi seemed to support Jingle Nodes in July 2011. But then I found out that almost no Jingle Nodes are running anywhere.
If I remember correctly that was one reason why https://jit.si was created in the first place.
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[11:25:52] <akuckartz> @Kev Also: "... Jingle Nodes ... is one of the techniques that Jitsi uses as part of the Interactive Connectivity Establishment
( ICE) protocol to handle NAT traversal for calls made over XMPP." https://jitsi.org/index.php/Documentation/FAQ#stun
[11:28:21] <akuckartz> @Kev that explains it: "The existing implementation of JingleNodes by JingleNodes.org only provides support for relaying UDP
streams." https://jitsi.org/index.php/GSOC/TCPJingleNodes
[11:32:52] <Alex> logged in with 2 Jitsi clients now, one is on jabber.org, but Jitsi does not allow me to call :(
[11:32:58] <Kev> Ahhar. I stand corrected.
[11:33:17] <Alex> the other server is a current version of ejabberd
[11:33:38] <Alex> oh, now it shows me call icon, this took forever
[11:34:05] <Alex> failes to cretae call, and a big Java stacktrace
[11:34:15] <Zash> Fun
[11:34:24] <Alex> this is a nightmare
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[11:37:58] <akuckartz> @Alex Do not despair! Send the developers the stack trace via one of the communication channels on this page: https://jitsi.org/index.php/Development/MailingLists
[11:39:42] <Alex> when I try the other direction I get:
Call ended by remote side. Reason: incompatible-parameters. Error: Offer contained no media formats or no valid media descriptions.
[11:41:59] <Alex> akuckartz: ya, I will not give up :D
[11:46:01] <akuckartz> @Alex Unfortunalely I have not much time currently to make suggestions :-(
[11:50:26] <Alex> akuckartz: I think the problem is that it does not recognize the microphone on the seconds machine
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[12:01:32] <Alex> HEUREKA, Jitsi works now :D
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[12:02:02] <akuckartz> @Alex +1
[12:02:11] <Kev> Alex: Fabulous.
[12:05:04] <Alex> and there is Jingle nodes and jingle relay nodes in the config
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