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[03:45:05] <luvs> good morning jabberers
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[09:09:28] <snyjw2005> hi
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[09:11:16] <hayes50807> in pubsub, what's the difference between a member and a subscriber?
[09:11:36] <hayes50807> an owner and a publisher (not publish-only) are also subscribers
[09:11:48] <hayes50807> but what's the member affiliation do?
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[10:42:18] <bharat> hi i am using open fire server and xmpp client for file transfer but file transfer is very slow can any one help me or give suggestion regarding it.
[10:43:17] <bush57491> Im searching any tutorial or documentation to learn how to create a xmpp client and server with python/web2py
[10:43:22] <bush57491> Any help?
[10:48:40] <bharat> for python use this link
[10:48:42] <bharat> http://www.filestudy.com/XMPP-The-Definitive-Guide--PDF.html#
[10:48:51] <bharat> for bush
[10:49:34] <Kev> Or, you know, buy the book instead of pirating it.
[10:52:28] <bharat> i donot pirating it i just find one link so provide some one to help him nothing else
[10:55:24] <Kev> I think it's reasonable to assume that if you find links to copyrighted books online on arbitrary file download sites that the're pirated.
[10:55:50] <Kev> And that then advertising them in front of the authors is not likely to make you popular.
[10:56:12] <bharat> i think i just help some one nothing else
[10:56:22] <bharat> you can think what you like
[10:56:25] <bush57491> Kev, he's only providing help.
[10:56:33] <bush57491> Thanks bharat
[10:59:26] <bharat> its my pleasure i am suffering from many days i am finding solutions and i can't slow file transfer issue but i can't
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[11:09:21] <bharat> sorry kev if i hurt you extreemly sorry but i just help to some one nothing else inspite again sorry
[11:13:17] <bharat> i donot know it was pirated book so again extreemely sorry
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[11:15:12] <bharat> sorry kev bye
[11:15:18] <bharat> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[11:15:25] <bharat> again sorry
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[11:19:05] <bharat> please reply kev
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[11:43:13] <louiz’> no
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[12:02:11] <taylor51647> hey guys, got a question here
[12:02:22] <louiz’> hey
[12:02:38] <taylor51647> hi
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[12:03:18] <taylor51647> i am developing an xmpp app on the iphone. i got most things figured out; however, there is just one stumbling block :-)
[12:03:57] <taylor51647> how do I get an xml response of all online buddies?
[12:04:05] <Kev> <presence/>
[12:04:45] <Tanguy> Good think taylor51647, I think that platform is lacking XMPP clients.
[12:05:10] <taylor51647> i'm developing against jabber :-)
[12:06:13] <taylor51647> here's what I wanna do. I want to announce my presence to the server, and in response the server should give me a xml listing
[12:06:25] <louiz’> yeah, that’s the roster
[12:06:25] <Kev> <presence/>
[12:06:32] <louiz’> indeed
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[12:07:07] <taylor51647> hang on a sec.. i;ll test this now
[12:07:48] <taylor51647> err..,, does it have to be a specific xml thingy..or do i just send <presence/>?
[12:07:55] <louiz’> http://xmpp.org/rfcs/rfc6121.html#roster-login also that?
[12:08:01] <Kev> <presence/> *is* a specific XML thingy.
[12:08:25] <taylor51647> lol.. ok, my bad :-)
[12:08:43] <Kev> I note that if you're trying to develop an XMPP client by guesswork it's likely to be painful - you should really read the specs or at the least read http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596521271.do
[12:09:45] <Kev> http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6120 and http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6121 are the main specs.
[12:09:56] <louiz’> or both the specs and the book :p
[12:10:06] <taylor51647> kev, you're not advertising, are you? :-p
[12:10:40] <Kev> taylor51647: Reading the book's the best way to get started with XMPP - that's why we wrote it.
[12:12:38] <louiz’> and next, the RFCs, and then the XEPs
[12:12:44] <taylor51647> think I have a pdf of your book
[12:14:12] <ThurahT> lol
[12:14:30] <ThurahT> tough day Kev..
[12:14:35] <louiz’> :D yeah
[12:14:50] <Kev> Just because it's a PDF doesn't mean he pirated it...
[12:14:58] <ThurahT> true.
[12:16:12] <taylor51647> enough with the sarcasm people. so, i sent my <presence/> and all i got is another <presence/> with the to and from fields having the same value, which is my jabberID..
[12:16:40] <Kev> taylor51647: And then after that you get the presence of all your contacts.
[12:17:47] <taylor51647> kev, no good
[12:18:49] <Kev> Put your XML stream in a pastebin somewhere, then.
[12:20:17] <taylor51647> hang on..
[12:22:18] <Kev> Are you writing your own library, or using an existing one?
[12:23:00] <taylor51647> im using an existing lib, one called XMPPFramework from Robbie Hanson
[12:24:12] <Kev> So presumably there's some presence object that you send, and then you'll receive presence from all your online contacts.
[12:24:33] <taylor51647> here it is http://pastebin.com/rT8bzAZG
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[12:27:22] <johnson59211> I forgot, the XML sent is generated by the framework. whatever goes through the framework gets reformatted, sorta..
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[12:28:07] <johnson59211> so, if I send <presence/> the framework will make it look like the one I posted off pastebin
[12:29:25] <Kev> Right, and you have been sent the presence for all your online contacts.
[12:29:27] <Kev> You don't have any.
[12:30:39] <johnson59211> however, if I log my test account off and log it back in it will register in the app I am making.
[12:33:26] <Kev> I've checked your roster on the server., you have no contacts.
[12:34:02] <johnson59211> take a look at the to and from attributes.. didn't you notice they both contain the same values? i'm under the impression the from attribute should be test122@jabber.org, the account on my app in progress.
[12:34:24] <Kev> Nope, the from should be the full JID of the sending client.
[12:34:42] <johnson59211> hang on, i'll switch the accounts
[12:35:05] <Kev> Or, well. It's best not to set the from on stanzas that you send. For stanzas you receive it'll be the full JID of the sending client because the server will have stamped it.
[12:36:22] <johnson59211> the library does the appending of the from attrib for you
[12:38:06] <Kev> Are you sure? It doesn't seem to have done so in that paste.
[12:39:00] <johnson59211> i didn't know my nick got changed to johnsonXXX.. :-)
[12:39:28] <Kev> I believe you can change it to something sensible with /nick blah.
[12:39:48] <johnson59211> lemme try that
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[12:40:56] <willgo> wunderful
[12:42:17] <willgo> ok, back to the discussion. isn't the from attribute implicit? i mean if i send my presence won't the server know that it came from me?
[12:42:44] <Kev> Yes.
[12:42:50] <Kev> Which is why you're not setting it when you send.
[12:44:08] <willgo> that's what I was told.
[12:47:10] <Kev> Yes - your paste is correct.
[12:48:28] <willgo> :-)
[12:50:14] <Kev> So I'm not sure what you're expecting to happen (or why you're expecting it) given that this account has no contacts.
[12:52:21] <willgo> im not sure actually, this really is strange. adium on the imac says the account on the iphone simulator is online and vice versa..
[12:52:48] <willgo> time for a break before i lose all the hair on my head
[12:54:12] <willgo> kev, hey, about the book, didn't mean to pirate it, buddy. by all means i'd buy one when i see one as i got something big coming up. i could use your book
[12:56:19] <willgo> thanks for the.. wot would i call it, guidance? thanks..
[12:57:57] <Kev> Are you connecting both clients to the same account?
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[12:58:12] <Kev> If so they will see each other without having anything in the roster.
[12:59:03] <willgo> iOS app has test122@jabber.org while Adium, test45690@jabber.org
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[13:16:39] <Kev> Apologies - I had mistyped the address.
[13:16:44] <Kev> (as 4569)
[13:17:40] <Kev> So yes, they have each other in their rosters, and if 122 is online when you send the presence stanza from 45690, you will receive both your own presence and the contact's. If 122 comes online later, after sending the presence from 45690, you will receive it then.
[13:25:25] <willgo> no problem.. must be an issue with the logic. meantime, i'll suspend working on this for now as it's time for me to go home. thanks, kevin. greets to u all from abu dhabi
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[22:52:43] <the.lost.love1> Hi
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