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[16:56:19] <darkrain_> jabber.org bug report: <message from='user2@jabber.org' to='user1@jabber.org/resource' type='headline' id='7ddb768491391180'><event xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/pubsub#event'><items node='http://jabber.org/protocol/mood'><item id='151116796769e9d8'><mood xmlns='http://jabber.org/protocol/mood'><-/></mood></item></items></event><delay xmlns='urn:xmpp:delay' stamp='2012-05-22T14:20:08Z'/></message>
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[16:56:56] <Kev_> Yeah, known and fixed in newer versions - Pidgin sets illegal moods and old M-Links accepted them :)
[16:57:11] <darkrain_> What's Pidgin sending to cause that?
[16:57:49] <Kev_> I believe the user in question typed "/mood ?" or something like that.
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[16:58:35] <darkrain_> Heeey, look at that.
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[17:01:08] <MattJ> Kev_, why shouldn't M-Link accept them?
[17:01:25] <Kev_> <-/> isn't legal
[17:01:27] <darkrain_> MattJ: Accept <?/> or <-/> as valid XML? Because it's not.
[17:01:32] <Kev_> Nor is <?/>
[17:01:42] <Kev_> Nor my personal favourite I've seen someone do of this <:)/>
[17:01:47] <darkrain_> Hah!
[17:02:08] <darkrain_> !ding
[17:02:26] <MattJ> er
[17:02:36] <MattJ> Never mind
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[17:02:44] <darkrain_> I didn't originally write this code -- don't look at me.
[17:03:03] <MattJ> I assumed invalid mood meant one not in the XEP, but not namespaced
[17:04:23] <darkrain_> http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0107.html#i18n is talking about the "<value/>" elements -- anyone know what it's actually trying to talk about? (there's no <value/> element defined in the spec)
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[17:05:18] <darkrain_> I'm assuming it means the elements defined in section 3, but then I'm trying to figure out why it's saying that the XML character data is *not* intended to be presented to a human user
[17:05:32] <darkrain_> (To whom is it intended to be presented?)
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[17:07:29] <Florob> darkrain, nobody?
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[17:08:19] <darkrain_> Well, but those elements don't *have* cdata. They have element names (I'm unsure of the appropriate XML term, but I really didn't think it was 'cdata').
[17:11:09] <Lance> I thought it was saying that we don't really care about the text data of those elements (which should be empty anyway), so no need to specify a language for i18n if for some reason someone did include text.
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[17:13:39] <Florob> darkrain, there is also no <value/> element IIRC. That was probably written under the assumption of doing <value>sad</value> and should be updated
[17:15:13] <darkrain_> Okay, I think we're in general agreement there. One last question: is there really no way to /not/ pick one of the mood elements, and just let the user specify some text?
[17:15:30] <darkrain_> (other than, say, defaulting to <neutral/>...because it's neutral!)
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[17:15:39] <darkhippo> Begone, ugly _
[17:15:41] <Lance> undefined?
[17:15:56] <darkhippo> I'm blind!
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[17:16:21] <darkhippo> Lance: Thanks, I was looking for "other" mostly
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[18:40:43] <Neustradamus> XEP-0277 has been updated http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0277.html
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[18:48:56] <Link Mauve> Neustradamus, you know, everybody here has a mail client, they can subscribe to the ML they want.
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[18:50:22] <psa> :)
[18:50:34] <Lance> heh, we should set up a microblog for xep updates
[18:50:50] <psa> Lance: sure!
[18:51:00] <xnyhps> Aren't we all here to deprecate mail? ;)
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