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[03:43:17] <abcd1234> kansdj
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[05:45:00] <lan> /me
[05:45:10] <lan> /topic 1234
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[09:27:41] <mil> hello
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[10:02:41] <quincyadams37646> bing
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[15:48:43] <Nemi567> Hii
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[15:49:12] <7ob.u.8zl> :-D
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[16:14:34] <xer0.crypt> Just testing to see if I'm finally connected...Hello everyone!
[16:15:14] <Kev> Hello.
[16:15:29] <xer0.crypt> Thank you very much for your reply.
[16:15:54] <xer0.crypt> Not sure what the problem was with Pidgin but for whatever reason, it worked this time.
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[16:20:24] <psa> heh
[16:20:31] <psa> xer0.crypt: well, welcome
[16:21:02] <xer0.crypt> Thank you. I'm still quite new to this whole XMPP protocol.
[16:21:54] <xer0.crypt> I registered via the register.jabber.org website but I'm wondering if the @domain.com can be changed and if I'm still able to log in. Or will it always be @jabber.org?
[16:22:09] <Kev> That account lives on jabber.org
[16:22:15] <Kev> You could register another address somewhere else.
[16:23:11] <psa> xer0.crypt: there is a short list of other servers at http://xmpp.net/
[16:23:32] <xer0.crypt> Aha! So, just like anything else, I can register on a different XMPP server. Somehow, I was under the impression that all XMPP servers recognized my account if I tried to connect to them :/
[16:24:10] <xer0.crypt> Apparently, if i tried to connect to...let's say: darkdna.net, I have to register with them...
[16:24:10] <Kev> No, all XMPP servers talk to each other (well, most).
[16:24:26] <Kev> So if you want to talk to someone on doomsong.co.uk from your jabber.org account, that works fine.
[16:24:55] <psa> xer0.crypt: your email address doesn't work everywhere, does it? but you can send email to everyone -- it's the same model in xmpp
[16:24:58] <louiz’> and you can join that chatroom (conference.jabber.org) even if connected from an other server
[16:25:11] <Kev> So it's just the cosmetics of your address, not who you can talk to with it.
[16:26:52] <xer0.crypt> Oh, so my previous assumption was right. I guess it was just a fluke with Pidgin. I've been trying all night to connect to any server with different configurations and Pidgin kept giving me a "invalid proxy error" or something.
[16:27:12] <xer0.crypt> Regardless, I think I've got the hang of it now.
[16:27:18] <Kev> No, your assumption was wrong, I think.
[16:27:21] <Kev> You always connect to jabber.org.
[16:27:35] <Kev> When you want to talk to someone on a different domain you still connect to jabber.org.
[16:27:44] <Kev> jabber.org then talks to the other domain on your behalf.
[16:28:12] <xer0.crypt> Oh no..that's what I meant. Sorry if I worded it wrong.
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[17:41:42] <darkpoint> Hi
[17:42:09] <darkpoint> im on jabber first time... I woudl like to ask why can conect to some rooms?
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[17:49:01] <darkpoint> ls
[17:49:10] <MattJ> Welcome
[17:49:23] <MattJ> I'm not sure I understand your question though
[17:53:27] <darkpoint> when im traying go into for example slavs roomgot info 401: acces denid
[17:53:54] <MattJ> It might be restricted to members, or require a password
[17:54:19] <darkpoint> so I must to know somebody to invite me or known password?
[17:55:33] <MattJ> Yes
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[18:59:32] <colartest> Offline messages isn't enabled by default on new accounts, right?
[19:01:09] <Kev> That may be true.
[19:03:40] <Alex> for Gtalk yes, don't know about other servers
[19:04:38] <colartest> Accounts on jabber.org
[19:09:41] <colartest> "Store messages received while offline" is not ticked in "User Configuration". Then again, so are the others :-P
[19:15:08] <colartest> If I send offline messages they are not received by the other jabber.org user. And the other way round...
[19:22:38] <colartest> The problem is clients where you are dependent of the default features. Like in Pandion, you can't enable offline messages. >:o
[19:30:24] <colartest> Is there a XMPP server that has offline messages enabled by default? And also with XEP-0184 enabled.
[19:33:21] <MattJ> Most do
[19:33:28] <MattJ> XEP-0184 only requires client support
[19:34:42] <colartest> But not jabber.org?
[19:35:51] <MattJ> jabber.org is the only one I know that even has offline messages configurable
[19:36:33] <colartest> But not enabled by default?
[19:37:06] <MattJ> I thought it was, but apparently not
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[19:56:11] <colartest> Can't get the XEP-0184 receipts to work. The arrow next to the message (in PSI+) stays purple, must the receiving client (in this case: Pandion) also support this?
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[19:59:02] <MattJ> Yes, both clients need to support it
[19:59:18] <MattJ> It should be auto-detected by your client whether your contact supports it
[20:00:54] <colartest> How does auto-detected work?
[20:03:21] <MattJ> It uses XMPP service discovery: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0030.html
[20:03:42] <MattJ> You can query for the supported features of any server/client using this mechanism
[20:08:12] <colartest> Ok, but you can't see this in the chat window. If I send a message the arrow remains purple and does not turn green. It does however turn green in this conference %)
[20:15:00] <colartest> So these basis clients like Pandion and eBuddy need to have the function "Send receipts to contacts by request" implemented?
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[20:18:50] <MattJ> and/or Psi+ needs to correctly detect whether the contact supports it before showing any indicator
[20:24:12] <colartest> It always has the purple arrow next to the message.
[20:27:58] <colartest> Could this be a PSI+ shortcomming? Do you recommend another client that can detect this more reliable?
[20:29:19] <MattJ> It could be, I've never used Psi+
[20:29:32] <MattJ> I use Gajim
[20:29:38] <MattJ> Kev, does Swift support 184?
[20:29:50] <Kev> Only *just* got back to machine.
[20:29:55] <Kev> Yes, 184's in 2.0beta1
[20:30:33] <Kev> (Thanks to Tobias)
[20:34:13] <Kev> http://swift.im/releases/swift-2.0beta1/ for the record.
[20:38:39] <colartest> was already looking on the Swift page . Does it have emoticons? :-D
[20:39:23] <Kev> It does not.
[20:39:31] <MattJ> :(
[20:42:27] <colartest> ok, they're useless, anyway ;-)
[20:42:37] <Kev> Useless but fun.
[20:42:47] <Kev> I want to support them :)
[20:44:28] <Tobias> 3d emoticons?
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[20:44:43] <Kev> 4d. at least.
[20:45:06] <Tobias> hey...all that webgl code we ship with must be used sometime
[20:46:16] <Tobias> we hardly use the full power of WebKit ^^
[20:46:57] <Kev> I feel you're mocking :p
[20:49:27] <Tobias> heh
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[21:31:27] <wilson36109> d
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[23:32:26] <.mesam.> هاي
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[23:53:06] <louiz’> ok
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[00:09:43] <.mesam.> ك ج
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