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[00:24:06] <Ammar.net> س ع
[00:24:47] <Ammar.net> مرحبا
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[05:21:38] <lyadav539> Hi
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[10:00:15] <arafangion> /me returns from a 6 year break to jabber!
[10:00:38] <Alex> arafangion: welcome back ;-)
[10:00:53] <arafangion> CHannel's bigger than I remember. :)
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[10:01:13] <arafangion> Still want to find a nice jabber<->freenode bridge. :(
[10:01:19] <Alex> ya, its quite popular these days
[10:01:39] <Alex> lunch time, back later
[10:02:13] <arafangion> Later.
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[10:05:13] <arafangion> Hmm, how would I confirm that I'm using GPG for identification?
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[10:20:32] <arafangion> Ahh, good to see that Psi still hangs with large chatrooms(!)
[10:27:42] <Kev> How large is large? And how long does it hang?
[10:28:04] <arafangion> Well, it doesn't hang as long as it used to from memory, years ago.
[10:28:25] <arafangion> But "large" would be say, more than 300.
[10:28:30] <arafangion> Or 600.
[10:28:37] <Kev> Oh, curious.
[10:28:39] <arafangion> I'm in one now that's over 1000.
[10:28:55] <Kev> I didn't test Psi with large rooms back in the day, but I've tested Swift with up to about 5000 occupants.
[10:29:04] <Kev> (And it will pause a little while joining such a room)
[10:29:29] <ThurahT> hi folks, what rooms are that large? Oo
[10:29:57] <Kev> #ubuntu on Freenode, for example, is around the 5000 mark, I think.
[10:30:05] <arafangion> ThurahT: For example, python%irc.freenode.org@irc.jabber.org.au
[10:30:24] <ThurahT> ah, I thought you guys were talking about MUCs.. :
[10:30:26] <ThurahT> )
[10:30:28] <arafangion> Kev: I'm also on an Atom D525 system, which probably doesn't help, but emacs, for example, handles it acceptably.
[10:30:33] <arafangion> ThurahT: I think that IS a MUC.
[10:31:02] <Link Mauve> arafangion, I don’t know any implementation of a GPG authentication method, did you mean starttls authentication, or GPG presence signing?
[10:31:08] <ThurahT> its a irc chat room using a transport?
[10:31:19] <arafangion> What annoys me more is not being able to bookmark my chatrooms.
[10:31:32] <arafangion> Link Mauve: I guess probably presence signing.
[10:31:36] <Kev> arafangion: Psi will certainly allow you to do that.
[10:31:38] <arafangion> Link Mauve: But it might be a psi-specific feature.
[10:31:45] <arafangion> Kev: I'm using psi now. :)
[10:31:51] <Kev> That's why I said it.
[10:32:15] <arafangion> Ah, I guess psi will encrypt the payload? Or does it do an out-of-band chat? :/
[10:32:22] <Link Mauve> It’s implemented in poezio and Gajim too (at least), and it’s specified in the XEP-0027.
[10:32:35] <Link Mauve> But I don’t like that specification.
[10:32:35] <arafangion> Nice.
[10:32:41] <arafangion> Link: Why not?
[10:32:59] <Link Mauve> Because for encryption you can’t use any payload, only plain text.
[10:33:52] <arafangion> Unfortunate. I'm not sure how practical this is, but I wanted to be able to use gpg to supposedly prove my identity to people.
[10:34:25] <louiz’> presences are signed with the GPG key
[10:34:50] <arafangion> Nice - how could I verify that?
[10:35:32] <Link Mauve> There should be an x element in the jabber:x:signed namespace in the signed presences.
[10:35:46] <Link Mauve> After that, it’s up to the client to provide an UI for that.
[10:35:54] <arafangion> I see.
[10:42:12] <arafangion> The irc transports have gotten *much* better over the years.
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[16:12:39] <aRyo> hi everyone i would like to ask for help for everyone in here i want to benchmark my openfire installation, if you don't mind please joining our groupchat at xmpp:lounge@groups.mayplaces.com?join Your participation would be greatly appreciated :)
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[17:00:58] <ThurahT> that's a 503
[17:01:09] <ThurahT> is it myplaces?
[17:01:24] <MattJ> It's correct, the room is full at the moment (for some reason)
[17:01:33] <ThurahT> ok.
[17:01:34] <MattJ> Well, there are 50 occupants, it won't let any more in
[17:01:54] <ThurahT> guess that's the limit then.. : )
[17:02:02] <MattJ> Yeah, except:
[17:02:15] <MattJ> > [17:35:55] aRyo: i set the room to unlimited users
[17:02:18] <MattJ> (in that room)
[17:02:25] <ThurahT> ah..
[17:03:07] <MattJ> While I know Openfire will break down at some point, *exactly* 50 seems ulikely :)
[17:03:10] <MattJ> *unlikely
[17:03:22] <ThurahT> hehe.. openfire is java right?
[17:03:40] <MattJ> Yes
[17:03:58] <MattJ> also http://community.igniterealtime.org/docs/DOC-1925
[17:04:07] <ThurahT> but its pretty easy to set up.
[17:04:19] <MattJ> That's it's only benefit really
[17:04:26] <MattJ> It is undoubtedly the easiest server to set up
[17:04:33] <MattJ> and has the shinest web admin
[17:04:35] <MattJ> Currently
[17:04:50] <Kev> MattJ: It depends how you define "set up", I think.
[17:04:50] <MattJ> Oh, I failed once to get it working on Linux - it's a lot easier on Windows
[17:04:56] <MattJ> Indeed
[17:05:06] <MattJ> I mean it has a graphical installation that requires no brain cells :)
[17:05:22] <Kev> It's much harder to get it production ready than it is to get it demo ready.
[17:05:33] <MattJ> Openfire? Production?
[17:06:10] <Tobias> MattJ, shiny screenshot production ^^
[17:06:12] <MattJ> Depends what your production is, really
[17:06:22] <ThurahT> : )
[17:06:27] <ThurahT> small office?
[17:06:30] <MattJ> Screenshots and isolated office installations, fine
[17:06:34] <MattJ> Yes, exactly
[17:07:17] <MattJ> If someone asked me the best server for a Windows office installation, Openfire would be on the list for sure (which isn't a bad thing, I think that was one of its main audience targets)
[17:07:35] <MattJ> For a public server, the security issues would worry me
[17:07:47] <MattJ> and for anything else, the performance issues would worry me
[17:08:29] <MattJ> Though someone once insisted to me that they were serving millions of users with Openfire
[17:08:51] <ThurahT> good to know. Me and my friend has registered a domain and we will run email, web/sftp and a xmpp server on it.
[17:09:16] <ThurahT> he likes openfire.
[17:09:44] <ThurahT> I like ejabbered. So I guess it will be prosody..
[17:10:05] <MattJ> Heh
[17:10:50] <ThurahT> /me is off for some ale adventures.
[17:10:56] <ThurahT> bye
[17:11:11] <MattJ> Enjoy
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[22:40:06] <buchanan48384> Hi. I'm new to Jabber. My company set up user id's for us, but I have no idea how to get started or which client to use (I have Windows). Any suggestions?
[22:45:25] <MattJ> Many clients are available - so you can choose the one you like best :)
[22:45:45] <MattJ> Pidgin is a common one, Swift is an interesting new one
[22:45:51] <MattJ> Pandion is nice and shiny
[22:46:10] <MattJ> Some people like Psi (lots of fiddly knobs to control)
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[23:47:43] <fillmore29802> This is Buchanan. I was disconnectd
[23:47:55] <fillmore29802> I've tried Pidgin, Pandion, and Citron.
[23:48:01] <fillmore29802> No luck.
[23:49:15] <ThurahT> what are you trying to do? It's not possible all those clients are broken
[23:56:59] <fillmore29802> My company has given me a JID, password, host, and port
[23:57:22] <fillmore29802> I'm just trying to configure the account to work with the information I was given
[23:58:35] <fillmore29802> I've tried entering in that info and I keep getting an "internal error" message
[23:59:08] <fillmore29802> Am I missing a piece of needed information?
[23:59:36] <fillmore29802> *"internal server error"
[00:05:04] <ThurahT> well, in pidgin at least the jid is name: name@doman.xx
[00:05:16] <ThurahT> the server is domain.xx
[00:06:26] <ThurahT> port is usually 5222 if they didn't change anything.
[00:08:57] <ThurahT> I mean server = host.xx
[00:09:21] <ThurahT> anything after the name@