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[19:25:26] <xrew> Hi, I would like to apologize for my horrible english. I really need help. I have to do project to school and i have to implement MUC server in Haskell with my team. We have implemented that like it is described in RFC6120 and EXP0045. Everythings works fine if user is authentized over jabber.org server, but if we are authentized example over jabbim.cz , it doesnt work. What we are doing: 1.Stream -> dialback (it seems to be OK) - jabbim communicate with us 2. We send broadcast presence in room, and then we send self-presence to user. Problem is, that server in the midle (user - jabbim - ourMUC) jabbim.cz filter our presence to user and user (client) is still waiting and chat windows never open .
[19:26:57] <deryni> What does the self-presence stanza that you send out look like exactly?
[19:27:23] <xrew> just minute, i will find log
[19:28:21] <xrew> <presence from="chat@merlin.fit.vutbr.cz/xrewJab" to="sychra@jabbim.cz/40967575801333393155768872"><x xmlns="http://jabber.org/protocol/muc#user"><item affiliation="member" role="participant"/><status code="110"/></x></presence>
[19:30:08] <xrew> what do you think ?
[19:31:35] <deryni> This is after that user joined your chatroom?
[19:32:55] <xrew> yes. Others can see him in room, but his IM doesnt open multichat window and still waiting to response from our server.
[19:33:52] <xrew> It seems, that server in middle filter out self-presence message.
[19:34:05] <deryni> Do you see him not getting that stanza?
[19:34:55] <xrew> I watch to wireshark and nothing come to client .
[19:37:30] <xrew> What is interesting, that with jabber.org everthings works fine...
[19:39:28] <deryni> Is that muc service running at the moment?
[19:39:45] <xrew> no, wait a minute, i will compiled that and run
[19:40:27] <jon> xrew: Cool thing that you are working with Haskell! I'm working on a Haskell XMPP library right now, "Pontarius". :)
[19:41:33] <jon> xrew: Perhaps comparing the network traffic using Wireshark or something like that could help.
[19:42:00] <xrew> deryni: but please dont scan ports. It is school server, and they hate that.
[19:42:25] <xrew> it is running
[19:42:33] <xrew> roomname = chat
[19:44:15] <xrew> we have implemented only basics things
[19:44:22] <xrew> iq packet doesnt works yet
[19:44:44] <xrew> we just want sign in the room
[19:46:18] <xrew> deryni : i will be there in 2 minutw, wait
[19:46:20] <deryni> I wonder if that's related. Have you compared the incoming traffic to your server from the two different join attempts?
[19:49:50] <xrew> If we have connected over jabber.org, client has recieved presence (catch in wireshark)..but if we have connected over jabbim.cz or anthoer, nothing came.
[19:50:45] <xrew> Me therory is, that jabbim.cz works with RFC3920 and we works with 6120, but what can be sou different ?
[19:51:51] <xrew> *RFC6120
[19:53:19] <xrew> And yes, we have compered that...we are desperate...
[19:57:34] <Link Mauve> xrew, most clients have an XML console built-in, and it’s better than wireshark or such external tool, because of TSL for example.
[19:58:01] <xrew> Realy? Where can i find that in pidgin?
[19:58:20] <deryni> Help->Debug Windwo
[19:58:56] <deryni> Also the XML Console plugin but the debug window is always there and includes non-xml stuff too.
[19:58:56] <Link Mauve> TLS*
[19:58:58] <xrew> wow, thats great!
[20:00:52] <xrew> i had to kill server, sorry..
[20:01:31] <Link Mauve> I tried to join your room, but the s2s session doesn’t seem to establish.
[20:01:47] <xrew> i saw you there..
[20:02:16] <xrew> can i copy there a log ?
[20:02:20] <xrew> It is long :-/
[20:02:26] <Link Mauve> Use some paste.
[20:02:43] <Link Mauve> http://dpaste.org/
[20:02:53] <xrew> i would like to show you stream estabilish..i think, mistake can be there
[20:05:34] <xrew> http://dpaste.org/p8iLN/
[20:09:16] <xrew> do you see sth in that ?
[20:11:02] <Link Mauve> It seems your server receive all my stanzas, responds as well, but I never got those stanzas.
[20:11:34] <xrew> exactly...that is our problem...we dont know, what we should debug...
[20:11:57] <xrew> i am watching to that 3 days...tried everything...no result..
[20:14:04] <Link Mauve> Now, I have enabled the debug in my server.
[20:14:23] <xrew> should i start my server ?
[20:14:32] <Link Mauve> It’d be better. ^^
[20:14:42] <xrew> it runs
[20:15:26] <xrew> can i kill that ?
[20:18:07] <deryni> Should we be seeing db:verify in that dialback output? Also I wonder if the lack of an iq response might be causing random problems.
[20:20:32] <xrew> I dont't know if db:verify has to be there...:(
[20:21:43] <xrew> i have read, that db:verify should we send to authoritative server, but not to initial server..
[20:21:56] <deryni> Neither do I my dialback knowledge is more-or-less non-existant but I'd much sooner suspect the iq response's being missing to be the problem than dialback to be the problem.
[20:22:32] <Link Mauve> One thing seems off, in my debug logs, it’s the “Apr 02 22:16:53 s2smanager warn Attempt to send stanza from merlin.fit.vutbr.cz - a host we don't serve” warning.
[20:23:04] <Link Mauve> As if my Prosody was interpreting a received stanza as something sent from itself.
[20:23:15] <Link Mauve> (And of course dropping it.)
[20:23:37] <xrew> wait a minute, i am not suer, that i understand...
[20:23:43] <xrew> (english is too bad
[20:23:59] <Link Mauve> xrew, first you could respond with an <iq type='error'/> to each iq stanza sent to you.
[20:24:51] <deryni> Link Mauve: Where in the process does that debug message show up? Where the missing stanza should be?
[20:25:34] <Link Mauve> Oh, and I get that db:verify, look: <result xmlns='jabber:server:dialback' type='valid' to='linkmauve.fr' from='merlin.fit.vutbr.cz'>
[20:25:41] <Link Mauve> Err, result, not verify.
[20:26:06] <Link Mauve> deryni, it’s the next message after “Apr 02 22:16:53 s2soutb266730 debug Received[s2sout]: <presence to='linkmauve@linkmauve.fr/poezio' from='chat@merlin.fit.vutbr.cz/Link Mauve'>”.
[20:26:39] <Link Mauve> What, s2sout?
[20:26:42] <Link Mauve> Not s2sin?
[20:26:46] <deryni> I was just about to comment on that.
[20:27:06] <deryni> I wonder if they are sending on the wrong connection,.
[20:27:24] <deryni> xrew: You have two connections to the other server once you finish dialback, which one are you sending data on?
[20:27:26] <Link Mauve> It may be the issue.
[20:27:50] <deryni> I'm going to bet it is though I'm not sure I see how that would be triggering that behaviour in prosody. That's amusing.
[20:28:06] <xrew> oh...thats not my part of work...i made stanza generator an my teammate is sleeping...
[20:28:08] <xrew> :(
[20:28:27] <deryni> Have him take a look at that when he gets up. I'm going to wager he's using the wrong one.
[20:28:38] <xrew> but i will save your massage and consult that tommorow with teammate..
[20:28:53] <xrew> ok, thank you :-)
[20:29:31] <xrew> I should go sleep to...in last 48hours i hae slept just 3......:-/
[20:29:34] <deryni> So it works with jabber.org because M-Link doesn't care (supports bi-directional connections) whereas prosody and whatever jabbim.cz is using don't (or do since there's a spec for that at this point, but it wasn't negotiated correctly, or something).
[20:29:50] <xrew> wow :-)
[20:31:01] <xrew> can i write there tomorrow, after i consultate that with him? We will try repair that and than i write here..
[20:31:30] <Link Mauve> Of course, there is always someone here.
[20:32:31] <xrew> Thank you very much for your time :-) i have to go sleep...so tired...i hope, it will works..
[20:32:46] <deryni> Good luck.
[20:33:09] <xrew> thanks...
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