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[10:42:59] <jon> What "expected instant messaging and presence activities" require an active resource (a requested session)?
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[11:11:05] <Kev> Context?
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[11:37:05] <jon> Kev: I'm developing an XMPP library without implementing XMPP core, and it's unclear to me whether or not I need to request a session or not.
[11:37:31] <Kev> Surely if you don't implement XMPP core what you have isn't an XMPP library?
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[12:34:11] <jon> Kev: My bad, I meant IM.
[12:35:06] <MattJ> jon, you don't need to request a session
[12:35:14] <MattJ> Are you following the right RFCs?
[12:38:41] <jon> MattJ: I am following RFC 6120, but some things (like message types) were defined in RFC 6121, so I glanced through it, and got curious about the session stuff. Thanks for your help!
[12:39:50] <MattJ> Hmm, where are session requests in 6121?
[12:43:44] <jon> It appears that I was mistaken. I thought I searched RFC 6121 for "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-session", but apparantly I didn't.
[12:43:57] <jon> Ah, it was 3921.
[12:44:00] <MattJ> Yep
[12:44:11] <MattJ> That's why I thought to check you were reading the right one(s) :)
[12:44:17] <jon> :)
[12:44:28] <jon> So it's deprecated?
[12:44:34] <MattJ> Yes, thankfully
[12:44:39] <jon> Lovely!
[12:44:50] <MattJ> When I last used ejabberd (some years back) it required you request a session
[12:45:11] <MattJ> I don't know if that's still the case, but if you get weird issues with it killing your stream after a timeout, check it's not that
[12:45:25] <jon> I see. Thanks.
[12:45:32] <MattJ> Every other server I know implements it for compatibility as a no-op
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[19:23:35] <dwd> git pull; until [ -f extensions/inbox/mam.html ]; do echo "MattJ, have you submitted MAM yet?"; sleep 30; git pull; done
[19:23:54] <dwd> Already up-to-date.
[19:23:55] <dwd> MattJ, have you submitted MAM yet?
[19:24:17] <MattJ> Seems this idea is catching on rapidly
[19:25:05] <dwd> To be fair, that script won't ever work, because it should be looking for mam.xml, of course.
[19:25:32] <Tobias> it'd remind him at least ^^
[19:25:56] <dwd> Tobias, Of course, one more thing occurs to me.
[19:26:06] <Kev> I'll send out the Council agenda tomorrow saying we're voting on MAM. That pretty much requires him to submit it :)
[19:26:43] <dwd> Does anyone know of a decent SMS gateway? Then I could *really* encourage him to submit...
[19:28:06] <MattJ> My phone is off, battery flat, I only charge it when I leave the house
[19:28:28] <Kev> Oh, hi Matt. You need to submit MAM.
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[20:51:55] <Tobias> MattJ, then we have to fallback to your landline and a TTS engine :)
[20:53:17] <Zash__> Let's mail MattJ an 3310 once per week and send SMSes to that.
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[20:57:18] <Tobias> oh..the joy of ubuntu/debian maintainers removing parts of the official distribution of software releases... :/
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