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[05:06:22] <Bright Zhao> hi?
[05:06:24] <Bright Zhao> anyone here?
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[06:01:03] <aRyo> yup
[06:01:14] <Bright Zhao> nice to see replying...
[06:01:21] <aRyo> :)
[06:02:28] <Bright Zhao> So can I create an personal chat room?
[06:02:43] <aRyo> sure
[06:02:53] <Bright Zhao> how?
[06:03:20] <aRyo> http://mayplaces.com/support/How-to-create-new-groupchat-room-c3-a30.html#f30
[06:04:28] <Bright Zhao> I'm using MAC
[06:04:34] <Bright Zhao> let me check my Mac chat client...
[06:05:04] <aRyo> no problem, it's web based just use your browser
[06:05:38] <Bright Zhao> ？
[06:05:42] <Bright Zhao> browser?
[06:05:56] <Bright Zhao> there isn't any create chat room in Mac's iChat
[06:06:02] <aRyo> wen browser, firefox, chrome. etc
[06:06:05] <Bright Zhao> but iChat support Jabber/XMPP
[06:06:14] <aRyo> *web
[06:06:26] <aRyo> it does
[06:07:58] <Bright Zhao> you mean myplace?
[06:08:41] <aRyo> i mean http://mayplaces.com/im
[06:09:20] <aRyo> or http://im.mayplaces.com
[06:10:09] <aRyo> or flash version http://imflash.mayplaces.com
[06:10:43] <Bright Zhao> but that one looks not an open source stuff..
I'm thinking whether can host an chat room by myself...
instead of someone else...
I mean I own the chat room...
[06:11:33] <aRyo> with that manual guide you do own the created chat room
[06:11:43] <aRyo> *you will
[06:11:56] <Bright Zhao> but that's hosted on mayplaces.com <http://mayplaces.com>
[06:12:04] <Bright Zhao> I don't trust them...
[06:12:15] <aRyo> lol.. how come??
[06:12:51] <Bright Zhao> who knows what are they?
[06:13:04] <aRyo> who knows who you are?
[06:13:21] <Bright Zhao> yes...
[06:13:30] <Bright Zhao> but is there any chat room I can create by myself?
[06:13:34] <Bright Zhao> I mean by my PC...
[06:13:53] <aRyo> not sure about that
[06:18:28] <Bright Zhao> can you help me to have an test?
[06:18:35] <Bright Zhao> could you join my chat room I just created...
[06:18:36] <Bright Zhao> is
[06:18:41] <Bright Zhao> liang@conference.jabber.org <xmpp:liang@conference.jabber.org?join>
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[06:36:34] <Bright Zhao> Hi
[06:36:44] <Bright Zhao> Is Microsoft MSN support this?
[06:37:25] <Alex> MSN live servers support XMPP now
[06:37:42] <Alex> see: http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/windowslive/archive/2011/12/14/anyone-can-build-a-windows-live-messenger-client-with-open-standards-access-via-xmpp.aspx
[06:39:06] <Bright Zhao> but how I can talk to an MSN users by Jabber client?
[06:39:51] <aRyo> by using tranport i believe
[06:39:57] <Alex> take a Jabber Client which supports the XMPP live studd and login with it
[06:39:59] <aRyo> *transport
[06:40:44] <Alex> or transports
[06:40:47] <Alex> both works
[06:41:08] <Bright Zhao> I'm currently using MAC iChat...
[06:41:17] <Bright Zhao> what I can do is to add an MSN user...
[06:41:26] <Alex> don't think that the Mac client already supports this
[06:41:30] <Bright Zhao> but it looks nothing happens on the MSN side of the user I added..
[06:41:44] <aRyo> use pidgin instead
[06:41:54] <Bright Zhao> what's "XMPP live studd"?
[06:42:03] <Bright Zhao> ok
[06:42:04] <Bright Zhao> let me try
[06:42:27] <Alex> or adium
[06:42:39] <Alex> I meant XMPP live stuff
[06:43:01] <Alex> Microsoft requires a special authentication instead of usind standard XMPP SASL mechanisms
[06:43:16] <Alex> this requires all software to add special code for it
[06:43:27] <aRyo> or http://mayplaces.com/im if you don't want to bother with installing new software :D
[06:43:33] <Alex> same as Facebook, they also have custom XMPP authentication
[06:44:06] <Bright Zhao> oh...I got it..
[06:44:22] <Bright Zhao> but the pidgin software for mac require compiling?
[06:44:51] <aRyo> i told you
[06:45:56] <Bright Zhao> For a native Mac OS X experience we recommend Adium <http://adium.im/>, which uses libpurple (the core of Pidgin) for much
of its protocol support.
If you're sure you want to use Pidgin on OS X, you may find the packages provided through Fink <http://finkproject.org/download/>
or Macports <http://www.macports.org/install.php> more convenient than compiling from source. Please note, we do not provide
support for issues related to installing Fink, Macports, or their packages of Pidgin. Contact those projects directly with
questions or concerns.
If you're sure you want to use Pidgin on OS X and you don't want to use Fink or Macports, you can download the Pidgin source
<http://pidgin.im/download/source/> and compile.
[06:46:33] <aRyo> pain in the ass
[06:47:09] <Bright Zhao> this is not something looks mature...
[06:47:31] <aRyo> go ahead give it a try
[06:47:59] <Bright Zhao> no la...
[06:48:08] <Bright Zhao> don't want to waste my time here
[06:48:24] <Bright Zhao> but anyway, thanks for the suggestion...
[06:48:24] <aRyo> :D
[06:48:28] <Bright Zhao> it's really helpful...
[06:48:34] <aRyo> your welcome
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[10:56:08] <Nathagbes> :help:
[10:56:44] <Nathagbes> /me <Nathagbes> :help:
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[16:07:11] <ahmed> هاي شباب
[16:07:25] <ahmed> أشلونكم
[16:07:41] <ahmed> 8(
[16:08:06] <ahmed> ahmed:
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[21:16:55] <ThurahT> heh, just read an article about cisco and halfway trough they talked about when cisco bought "jabber" and are now trying to
make it the standard conf. for corps. For a second I thought they meant jabber.org : O Turns out it was Jabber XCP they referred
to. What ever that is..
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[22:34:09] <darkrain> jabber.com
[22:34:17] <MattJ> ThurahT, they bought "Jabber" the company
[22:34:31] <MattJ> which did indeed develop XCP
[22:35:13] <MattJ> When the protocol was standardised a non-trademarked name had to be found, which is where XMPP came from
[22:36:11] <MattJ> https://stpeter.im/journal/1270.html
[22:40:11] <ThurahT> heh.. This was smthng I actually didn't know about. I thought it all started with jabber.org and jeps. Thanks for links.
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