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[10:32:55] <shadeslayer> Hi
[10:33:24] <shadeslayer> I was wondering if I could talk to someone who works on the Jabber servers about a problem we are having
[10:34:08] <shadeslayer> The issue is that when sending texts from a Jabber ID to a GTalk ID,our client fails with a Error Code 500
[10:34:39] <shadeslayer> This usually happens when sending IM's in a quick succession
[10:35:45] <shadeslayer> do you guys know anything about this? Any idea who/what is at fault here? ( I can receive texts from GTalk contacts, which is why I'm inclined to believe that Google is rejecting my chats )
[10:42:31] <Kev> What's the full body of the stanza?
[10:42:40] <Kev> s/body/xml/
[10:43:20] <Kev> I would suspect GTalk doing hard rate limiting, but have little to go on.
[10:47:17] <shadeslayer> sec
[10:47:33] <shadeslayer> Kev: http://wstaw.org/m/2012/03/16/plasma-desktoplN2294.png
[10:47:58] <Kev> That's coming from the Google server.
[10:48:34] <shadeslayer> yes, the error code 500 is coming from the Google server, which is why I believe it's a problem at their end
[10:50:10] <shadeslayer> I just wanted to confirm if that's what you guys thought as well and knew anything about Google rate limiting IM's from other XMPP networks
[10:50:45] <shadeslayer> and if there's a way to work around the problem ...
[10:51:02] <Kev> If it's rate limiting...send messages more slowly? :)
[10:51:12] <shadeslayer> haha
[10:51:21] <Kev> I don't know anything about this, I'm afraid.
[10:51:31] <shadeslayer> the rate is too low, you can't carry out normal conversations at such a low rate
[10:53:43] <shadeslayer> Kev: Any idea who might be able to help out with this?
[10:54:05] <Kev> I'd try asking the Google guys.
[10:54:13] <Kev> They have a support list for their XMPP service, I believe.
[10:54:18] <shadeslayer> ah cool
[10:54:23] <shadeslayer> I'll look into that, Thanks!
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[11:19:07] <shadeslayer> Kev: Heh, I'm using irssi-plugin-xmpp and there's no rate limiting
[11:19:16] <shadeslayer> there's no rate limiting on kopete as well
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[11:21:17] <shadeslayer> absolutely annoying this is
[11:21:39] <Ahmadsabbagh79> Hi
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[11:49:15] <Kev> Right, clients don't rate limit because they don't expect the server to be doing hard rate limiting.
[11:49:24] <Kev> Many XMPP servers do soft rate limiting, but the clients don't need to care about that.
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[16:36:35] <madison32735> hi im a new member and I cannot add a contact for some reason I keep getting a error message
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[17:37:25] <taylor64050> How do I un-bookmark a chat room?
[17:37:51] <louiz’> with what client
[17:38:23] <taylor64050> Ihave to manually log in to a chat room and it's annoying. I want to auto log in?
[17:38:32] <taylor64050> gajim
[17:39:47] <louiz’> Action -> Join groupchat -> manage bookmarks
[17:39:52] <louiz’> on your roster
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[18:41:43] <alisoliman> How are you
[18:42:17] <alisoliman> Can you help me
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[18:43:12] <alisoliman> help
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[20:03:33] <obama40011> кто-то помогает тут?
[20:04:10] <psa> can we help you?
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[20:05:55] <obama40011> i registred jabber acc and can't connect in psi
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[21:51:38] <mahoodlum> hey folks
[21:52:05] <mahoodlum> just wondering if connectivity issue is happening with others on jabber.org?
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[21:53:07] <MattJ> Hmm
[21:53:13] <MattJ> At the moment all is fine as far as I know
[21:54:05] <mahoodlum> MattJ: thanks though over the last month I've noticed an increase in connection issues, I can't place it but will start looking at the debug to give data back
[21:54:51] <MattJ> There were some issues I know of, probably about a week ago now
[21:55:20] <MattJ> I restarted the server once... connectivity would have been poor for about 30-45 minutes
[21:55:29] <MattJ> Similar the next day at the same time for about 20 minutes
[21:55:39] <MattJ> I'm not aware of any issues since then
[21:55:51] <MattJ> (not to say it hasn't happened - data would be welcome)
[21:56:05] <mahoodlum> hmm ok that does explain last week...today it was just random disconnected for a solid 10 minutes or so
[21:56:09] <MattJ> but people often have connection issues, and it's not always easy to pin the fault
[21:57:20] <mahoodlum> is there a debug log that exists without opening the debug window in pidgin (or is that more of pidgin specific question)?
[21:58:21] <MattJ> There's an XML console plugin and the debug window - beyond that I don't know
[21:58:36] <MattJ> I don't use Pidgin much
[21:59:39] <mahoodlum> MattJ: ok I'll keep an eye out and see if I can provide more useful information next time
[21:59:53] <MattJ> Ok, thanks :)
[22:00:30] <mahoodlum> no worries thanks for the quick response :) is this the best place to go or is there a ticket system ?
[22:00:45] <MattJ> This is the best place
[22:01:08] <MattJ> There's an unofficial backup where grumpy users collect during outages though, #jabber on Freenode
[22:01:28] <MattJ> a couple of us idle there to receive our punishment when necessary
[22:01:47] <mahoodlum> I'll shy away from the grumpy users and come here :)
[22:01:54] <MattJ> Heh, much friendlier here
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[22:09:03] <sokolraf> das xmpp support encryption or is this done on application level, the client sw?
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[22:59:04] <sokolraf> can anyone recommend a good jabber client that supports encryption and voice for Windows and or Linux?
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[23:02:20] <cheney64870> /me has connection problems without being aware to have changed anything local here
[23:02:22] <MattJ> I use Gajim, other options would be Pidgin and Jitsi, probably others
[23:02:56] <MattJ> cheney64870, does your client give an error?
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[23:03:38] <cheney64870> MattJ: "Disconnected -- Network error"
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[23:03:56] <cheney64870> not very helpful, it's from the Gnome client
[23:04:10] <cheney64870> nothing in the debug logs
[23:04:19] <cheney64870> /me installs pidgin to cross check
[23:04:31] <MattJ> Yeah, Empathy gives "Network error" for a lot of problems
[23:05:36] <cheney64870> pidgin works
[23:05:44] <cheney64870> grrr
[23:06:58] <MattJ> Interesting
[23:07:14] <cheney64870> /me tries the windows way and restarts the session. It works more and more often for Gnome, too.
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[23:11:40] <ukl> restarting worked :-\
[23:12:08] <ukl> MattJ: thanks
[23:12:23] <MattJ> Strange
[23:12:25] <MattJ> You're welcome :)
[23:12:59] <ukl> /me thinks it's something like: "dbus restarted"
[23:13:56] <ukl> /me shrugs and goes back to his other tasks
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[00:01:36] <mahoodlum> MattJ: so I get a DNS lookup error and then a connection timed out
[00:08:46] <MattJ> Hmm, DNS
[00:09:26] <mahoodlum> Mattj yeah I am not sure what to make of it but it looks for alternative connections and times out...might this just be a bad internet connection?
[00:10:12] <MattJ> It could be - all the DNS servers seem to be responding for me
[00:10:20] <MattJ> (there are 3)
[00:12:26] <MattJ> I take it back, there are 5 :)
[00:13:01] <mahoodlum> hmm ok well it's odd cause IRC and gtalk don't experience a disconnect of any sort