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[04:21:31] <Gomex> Hi Guys
[04:21:40] <Gomex> Is possible invite a guy from Gtalk?
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[10:16:02] <bush53768> Hi!
[10:16:30] <ThurahT> good morning
[10:16:44] <bush53768> I have a problem with my account.. It isnt authorized at the moment, how can I authorize it?
[10:17:07] <ThurahT> have you done the captcha thing?
[10:17:46] <bush53768> yes, I've done it.
[10:17:51] <bush53768> and it was working.
[10:18:08] <bush53768> but my friends get a "not authorized" message and I cant connect.
[10:18:08] <ThurahT> then you should be good to go..
[10:18:56] <ThurahT> oh.. that is another thing. You need to authorize their subscription to you and vice a versa.
[10:19:13] <ThurahT> you do that in the client.
[10:20:18] <ThurahT> which client is it?
[10:20:21] <bush53768> but it doesn't appear to be authorized
[10:20:30] <bush53768> iphone "imo" client.
[10:21:03] <ThurahT> know nothing about that one, sorry..
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[10:21:50] <bush53768> ok
[10:21:53] <bush53768> thank you
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[13:43:31] <Link> There is now some XMPP support in Thunderbird. :)
[13:43:32] <Link> https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/log?rev=xmpp
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[13:48:28] <Sssultansingha2> Hi
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[14:40:07] <Alex> Link Mauve: have you tested this Thunderbird stuff?
[14:40:31] <Link Mauve> Not yet.
[14:41:00] <Link Mauve> It seems they disabled generic XMPP usage for now because of their lack of SRV support.
[14:41:04] <Neustradamus> I tried, but the problem was, it does not work with XMPP server...
[14:42:04] <Alex> is it based on instantbird, or compltly new?
[14:42:45] <Neustradamus> Florian is a dev of InstantBird
[14:43:37] <Neustradamus> my bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=714733#c35
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[16:06:15] <ThurahT> Neustradamus: I didn't know about that server list.. Nice.
[16:07:19] <psa> I talked with Florian at FOSDEM and he mentioned the DNS SRV stuff -- I think the Mozilla folks are working on a DNS library
[16:09:06] <Tanguy> Are they? Finally, perhaps some hope for SVR records use with Thunderbird, and maybe, let us be crazy, Firefox and the Web!
[16:09:56] <Tanguy> Or mayben they are even planning to support Jabber for IM even though that is a piece of technology that is less than 30-years old!
[16:10:41] <Link Mauve> For now, just facebook, gmail and twitter. :p
[16:11:04] <Tanguy> No, they do not. They support the Web, which is old.
[16:11:07] <psa> Link Mauve: that's in the released software, yes
[16:11:20] <Tanguy> No direct support for these stuff, it is within the Web.
[16:11:22] <psa> Link Mauve: but Florian said they are rewriting a lot of the backend code
[16:11:30] <ThurahT> I always thought mozilla would release a xmpp client, since they know their way around xml and such.. But this?.. Meh..
[16:11:52] <psa> ThurahT: be patient
[16:12:08] <ThurahT> I guess gmail is a good start though..
[16:16:58] <psa> ThurahT: they're working on it :)
[16:16:58] <psa> hmm
[16:16:58] <psa> .
[16:17:00] <ThurahT> SeaMonkey comes with irc client so the next logical step would be an xmpp client.
[16:17:02] <Link Mauve> ThurahT, having an implementation inside of the platform, even if it’s only Thunderbird for now, means that any extension will be able to communicate through XMPP.
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[16:17:45] <Tanguy> I always thought they should release a Jabber client, or perhaps integrate it with Thunderbird, but I never expected they would since Jabber is a modern stuff.
[16:17:52] <psa> lag city
[16:18:22] <Tanguy> +1
[16:18:22] <ThurahT> yes.. That makes sense..
[16:19:29] <ThurahT> sometimes I wonder what the web would be like without mozilla.. : )
[16:20:00] <Link Mauve> The same as in South Korea?
[16:20:21] <ThurahT> scary thought at least..
[16:20:24] <Link Mauve> 99% of IE6 market share, 99% of windows xp…
[16:20:27] <Tanguy> Sometimes I wonder what the Internet would be like if it did not fossilize on the Web.
[16:20:53] <Minos> cats
[16:21:03] <Link Mauve> xD
[16:21:03] <Minos> as it does now
[16:22:26] <ThurahT> : ) bbl..
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[16:26:00] <psa> I don't think we'll have SRV for HTTP anytime soon, or ever
[16:29:39] <Tanguy> I wonder why people like Google do not push for that.
[16:29:44] <Tanguy> It would be very beneficial for them.
[16:33:39] <Tanguy> But that does not surprise me, that would be modern, that is, incompatible with the fossilized Web, again.
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[16:37:33] <Link Mauve> Tanguy, currently google is pushing their proprietary platform, NaCl.
[16:41:13] <Tanguy> Is that not rather a kind of ActiveX?
[16:53:23] <Link Mauve> Yeah.
[16:53:45] <Link Mauve> Only, multiplatform everywhere google is.
[16:56:08] <Tanguy> It does not predate the advantages SRV for HTTP would provide in any way, for what I see.
[16:56:21] <Tanguy> It would just be another Flash-like crap…
[16:56:50] <Link Mauve> Yeah.
[16:57:28] <Link Mauve> But with that they’ll be able to offer any support of unsupported Web features to google users.
[16:59:12] <ThurahT> my magic crystal ball says it'll be great in a black hats view..
[16:59:24] <Link Mauve> ^^
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[17:51:27] <ThurahT> can a node in a JID be case sensitive? And btw what xep super seeded xep 29? (http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0029.html)
[17:51:45] <ThurahT> BBL..
[17:52:59] <Link Mauve> ThurahT, it’s the RFC 6122.
[17:53:05] <Link Mauve> And no, it can’t.
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[18:08:00] <dirt_wizard> hello
[18:08:35] <dirt_wizard> I'm having weird problems with jabber and integrating it into my pidgin
[18:08:48] <psa> right, JIDs are not case-sensitive or case-preserving
[18:08:53] <psa> dirt_wizard: what's the problem?
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[18:09:19] <nkt> gchat connectivity problems again
[18:09:29] <psa> nkt: ok, noted
[18:09:45] <dirt_wizard> I freshly created this account here, put my login data into pidgin (which all worked opbviously, otherwise i wouldnt talk to you people here) but when I add buddys they dont appear in my buddy list and I dont get authorization requests
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[18:10:18] <psa> dirt_wizard: are all your buddies at gmail?
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[18:10:32] <dirt_wizard> uhm, wait a second
[18:10:53] <dirt_wizard> ah yes they are
[18:10:54] <psa> because if we're having connectivity problems with google, you wouldn't see your contacts there
[18:11:02] <dirt_wizard> aaah okay
[18:11:09] <dirt_wizard> so everythings fine with me, its their fault? ;)
[18:11:19] <psa> yep, that's the spirit!
[18:11:43] <dirt_wizard> haha, thank you very much
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[18:19:14] <ThurahT> oh I see.. No wonder I didn't found a xep, it became a rfc.. : )
[18:19:23] <psa> heh
[18:19:52] <psa> I'll update XEP-0029 with a better pointer
[18:20:01] <psa> because people have pinged me about this before
[18:21:06] <ThurahT> oh, Well.. I guess the "super seeded by" works well with xeps. But in rare cases.. : )
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[18:24:17] <ThurahT> I just started reading up on xmpp more in depth.. Have only used it for 7 years, so it was about time.
[18:24:56] <Link Mauve> :)
[18:25:02] <psa> http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0029.html updated
[18:25:15] <psa> hopefully the little box in the Introduction gets your attention :)
[18:25:41] <ThurahT> hehe.. indeed
[18:25:52] <psa> ok :)
[18:27:40] <psa> and eventually RFC 6122 will also be superseded, since I'm working on https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-xmpp-6122bis/ :)
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[18:28:36] <psa> a long chain of supersedings (if that is a word)
[18:28:40] <ThurahT> ah.. nice..
[18:29:39] <ThurahT> I think it can be.. : )
[18:30:41] <psa> I think so too -- the English language is quite flexible that way
[18:30:45] <psa> brb, need to heat up some lunch
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[19:53:49] <garfield59520> How I can sign in onto Jabber.org?
[19:54:29] <garfield59520> "fell9@jabber.org" ...this morning account.
[19:55:11] <garfield59520> Please, keep me informed at lPhone8741@live.com
[19:55:16] <garfield59520> Thanks.
[19:55:51] <mebs> garfield59520: what client do you use?
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[22:07:33] <qurious> hey I tried to start using jabber today and I can't seem to connect with people using gmail?
[22:07:36] <qurious> is there a problem there?
[22:08:41] <qurious> both ends have added the other as buddies but they both seem to think that the other person isn't authorized
[22:09:13] <ThurahT> there is a server to server issue.
[22:09:20] <ThurahT> google is working on it.
[22:12:11] <qurious> I saw something about that on the website which was posted 2 weeks ago, has it really been broken for 2 weeks?
[22:12:25] <ThurahT> no.
[22:12:55] <ThurahT> but it is a returning issue..
[22:13:08] <qurious> ah
[22:13:23] <qurious> is it a problem where no xmpp servers can talk to google servers?
[22:13:29] <ThurahT> you could try an register a "back up" accoount on a nother xmpp server
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[22:13:54] <ThurahT> well, at least jabber.org to gtalk servers..
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[22:27:06] <psa> ThurahT: it's true for lots of xmpp servers
[22:27:10] <psa> not all, but many
[22:27:20] <psa> the reasons for that are unclear :|
[22:27:20] <psa> bbl
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[22:30:19] <ThurahT> Yes, sure there are. I only know about jabber.org since it is the server I use and most common. Though I use two other that seem to work very well. Or at least I am lucky so far.. : )
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