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[07:08:03] <Karar> مرحبا
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[18:37:10] <toonesbury> Hallo! I was going to ask a question. Can you answer?
[18:38:03] <psa> hi
[18:38:11] <psa> what's the question? :)
[18:38:47] <toonesbury> Is there a place where I could find out about the gazillion chat rooms, viz. what's going on?
[18:39:04] <toonesbury> Some chatroom names give something away, but most don't.
[18:39:12] <toonesbury> I'm a newbie here...
[18:40:23] <Link Mauve> There is a chatroom search engine, sadly not usable from XMPP: http://search.wensley.org.uk/
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[18:40:49] <toonesbury> Thanks, that link helps.
[18:41:58] <toonesbury> They seem to list a lot of rooms.
[18:42:24] <psa> yep
[18:42:35] <psa> thanks, Link Mauve!
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[18:43:09] <toonesbury> So I'm going to do some homework. Thanks for the info. :)
[18:43:12] <psa> :)
[18:43:14] <psa> brb
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[18:43:26] <Sasha Crofter> Hello everyone ^.^
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[18:44:02] <psa> hi Sasha Crofter
[18:44:06] <psa> can we help you?
[18:44:15] <psa> or are you just saying hello? ;-)
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[18:44:41] <sashacrofter> I believe you probably can help me!
[18:44:49] <psa> ok!
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[18:45:21] <sashacrofter> I'm trying to write a Minecraft plugin to allow connections between Minecraft servers and Jabber conference rooms
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[18:46:06] <MattJ> in what language?
[18:46:29] <sashacrofter> So I've just downloaded the Smack API, and such, but I can't seem to find any documentation about creating a connection to a conference
[18:46:31] <sashacrofter> Ah, Java
[18:46:33] <psa> brb again
[18:48:36] <sashacrofter> I haven't searched the documentation for that all that well yet, so my real question is what would the requirements be for me to connect to a preexisting chatroom
[18:49:15] <sashacrofter> I presume I need the server name, the name of the chatroom, an account on the server with which to connect, and the port?
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[18:53:39] <sashacrofter> Hmm. The Smack documentation seems to imply that I really only need the server name, a username, and a password to connect
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[19:05:17] <sashacrofter> Ah, I might've figured it out.
[19:05:19] <sashacrofter> Thanks ^.^
[19:06:13] <psa> heh
[19:06:19] <psa> I love it when questions answer themselves :)
[19:06:43] <toonesbury> Just following the flow, while writing a marketing document I have learned something useful.
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[20:29:30] <ThurahT> so, how impossible would it be to have a xmmp based MUC search like that page Link Mauve linked?
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[20:34:28] <Link Mauve> On their MUC, someone asked for the same thing just yesterday, and they said they’d be happy to build an XMPP interface, it’s just not yet done.
[20:36:57] <Link Mauve> Plus, I don’t know which XEP to use for a search engine like that. Perhaps just a disco#items to a specific resource (which would be great for existing MUC list), or something more evolved like an ad-hoc command, or a Jabber Search, or…
[20:37:01] <ThurahT> hi, ok. So the idea is out there at least..
[20:37:30] <ThurahT> yeah.. Or psa could write a new xep : D
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[20:38:44] <ThurahT> the servers would need to disco each other?
[20:40:40] <Link Mauve> For now they use a bot that queries all the rooms, and they’d share the database.
[20:40:55] <Link Mauve> The only problem here is the interface to present to XMPP users.
[20:41:03] <ThurahT> yea.
[20:41:35] <ThurahT> It's a centralized solution though..
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[20:42:00] <ThurahT> I hate tabitha.graham35s client..
[20:44:33] <Link Mauve> I think they would be open to allow the clone of their database. I’ll ask them later, when they’ll be there.
[20:45:57] <ThurahT> ok, nice.
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[20:51:46] <MattJ> server buddies :)
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[20:53:35] <ThurahT> server buddies..
[20:54:03] <MattJ> http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0267.html
[20:55:47] <ThurahT> nice.. This would do it
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[21:01:55] <ThurahT> so if the servers shared this between them the service would be decentralized.. Would the load be acceptable?
[21:02:28] <MattJ> There would still be a centralized spider, most likely
[21:02:43] <MattJ> The buddy thing is mainly to opt into it
[21:03:13] <ThurahT> oh..
[21:03:58] <psa> it's on my list to get xmpp.net up and running with the code Waqas wrote, but it might not happen until my post-IESG life begins :)
[21:04:47] <ThurahT> : )
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[21:21:25] <anonymous524> Hi there
[21:21:32] <anonymous524> i'm totally new here
[21:21:38] <psa> hi :)
[21:22:02] <anonymous524> i need help
[21:22:15] <anonymous524> can i ask you?
[21:22:19] <psa> you need help, we offer help -- it's a great combination! :)
[21:22:36] <anonymous524> great
[21:22:48] <anonymous524> maybe it's something easy for you expert guys
[21:23:16] <anonymous524> at work, we use psi 0.14 version
[21:23:25] <anonymous524> and we use the group chat
[21:24:45] <psa> where are your groupchat rooms hosted? at conference.jabber.org, your own server that you run at your company, or somewhere else?
[21:24:58] <anonymous524> conference.jabber.org
[21:25:13] <psa> ok
[21:25:28] <anonymous524> the point is that we don't catch immediately when someone write on the groupchat
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[21:25:52] <psa> hmm
[21:25:55] <anonymous524> is there a way to pop-up the group chat when someone write on it
[21:26:12] <anonymous524> or at least to make the link flashing or something like that
[21:26:25] <psa> in my version of Psi 0.14, the chatroom tab changes color, so I know that someone has said something in the room
[21:26:41] <anonymous524> in mine don't change colours
[21:26:51] <anonymous524> it only appear a little star
[21:26:57] <anonymous524> this one *
[21:26:58] <psa> what operating system are you on?
[21:27:05] <anonymous524> windows xp
[21:27:08] <psa> ah
[21:27:13] <psa> I'm on Mac OS X
[21:27:18] <psa> maybe it behaves differently
[21:27:39] <psa> /me looks in the preferences
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[21:29:01] <anonymous524> I've tried several combination, but i couldn't find anything interesting
[21:29:39] <psa> yeah, I don't see anything
[21:29:46] <psa> I wonder if this feature is available in Psi+
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[21:30:08] <anonymous524> Do you know where i can download it?
[21:30:20] <psa> no, but I bet Google knows :)
[21:30:35] <psa> actually, I use DuckDuckGo for my search engine, but it's the same idea
[21:31:09] <psa> e.g. https://code.google.com/p/psi-dev/downloads/list?q=label:Windows+Installer
[21:31:40] <MattJ> http://lmddgtfy.net/ :P
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[21:32:09] <ThurahT> I also use duckduckgo : ) Best thing since google stopped being google..
[21:32:13] <psa> heh
[21:33:07] <anonymous524> let me check duckduckgo
[21:33:31] <psa> anonymous524: DuckDuckGo is an alternate search engine
[21:33:45] <psa> some of us don't think Google is non-evil anymore
[21:33:58] <psa> but the link I pasted should get you started with Psi+ in case you want to test that client
[21:34:09] <psa> other possibilities are Pandion and Swift
[21:34:17] <psa> there are lots of IM clients you can try :)
[21:34:26] <psa> http://xmpp.org/xmpp-software/clients/ has a list
[21:34:27] <psa> brb
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[21:40:56] <anonymous524> wow! a lot of clients
[21:41:05] <anonymous524> i have to provide them to my boss...
[21:41:53] <psa> :)
[21:42:43] <ThurahT> anonymous524: concentrate on Psi, Gajim, Swift and Pidgin.
[21:42:59] <psa> on Windows I think the main ones are Pandion and Swift (Jabber-only), but of course there are plugins for Miranda, Pidgin, etc.
[21:43:10] <psa> ThurahT: does Gajim run on Windows?
[21:43:15] <ThurahT> yes
[21:43:25] <MattJ> They've made much improvement on Windows support recently
[21:43:40] <ThurahT> I just tested their new 0.15b4-2 version..
[21:44:17] <psa> nice
[21:44:44] <ThurahT> it almost works for me.. : ) I still have problems since i sue black back ground..
[21:44:53] <ThurahT> *use
[21:51:32] <anonymous524> well! thank you so much for your support
[21:51:52] <anonymous524> i think I'm going to install them one by one till I've found the one for me!
[21:51:58] <anonymous524> you are great guys!
[21:52:05] <psa> :)
[21:52:10] <psa> happy jabbering!
[21:52:56] <anonymous524> :-)
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[21:57:18] <simone.ranucci> hi all i am looking for ios / blackberry / symbian devs to work together on an XMPP project
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[22:03:12] <abaskdr99> مرحبا
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[22:16:49] <abaskdr99> :SKULL:
[22:18:18] <abaskdr99> yuppinturic:
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[22:45:36] <Link Mauve> What is the state of Jingle in the gmail web client?
[22:45:50] <Link Mauve> Does it still supports only the pre-XEP one?
[22:46:05] <Minos> It supports bells
[22:46:06] <Minos> all the way
[22:46:14] <Minos> (sorry)
[22:49:09] <Tobias> Link Mauve, they said to plan updating it to current XEP state...also updating their ICE implementation to the latest draft
[22:49:18] <Tobias> but no dates mentioned
[22:49:26] <Link Mauve> Ok.
[22:54:10] <Minos> Debian-style
[22:54:13] <Minos> whenever it’s ready
[22:56:10] <Link Mauve> Proprietary-stuff style, when it’s approved above.
[22:57:22] <Minos> Yeah, that’s more accurate
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[23:47:17] <Sasha Crofter> Hello again everyone
[23:51:46] <ThurahT> hi
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