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[00:25:56] <jackson39789> is stpeter@jabber.org here?
[00:26:57] <MattJ> psa, ^
[00:28:03] <MattJ> and I'm off to sleep, 'night all
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[00:30:24] <ThurahT> looks like gtalk works again..
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[07:46:26] <ameer.alkobraa> ?
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[13:57:30] <pierce20016> quick q: I want to chat to someone and I only have their JID. I'm a gtalk user. Do I need a jabber.org account? Using pidgin as client.
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[15:07:11] <nkt> looks like the Google connectivity issues are back. I can't see any of my gmail.com <http://gmail.com> contacts
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[15:17:36] <mebs> it is strange. before server restart it worked ok. and restarts usually solved gmail connectivity problems
[15:19:24] <nkt> have other Jabber services had similar problems with Google connectivity? It seems like if it's a problem on Google's end, it would be more widespread among Jabber services and not just limited to jabber.org <http://jabber.org>
[15:20:31] <nkt> for example, my account on jabber.no <http://jabber.no> works just fine.
[15:43:33] <mebs> nkt: it is ok now for me
[15:44:16] <mebs> nkt: I heared something that it is only a problem with gmail.
[15:44:34] <nkt> but why only with jabber.org <http://jabber.org> and not other jabber services?
[15:45:05] <mebs> nkt: I don't know
[15:45:12] <nkt> i don't disagree that it could be a problem on Google's end, but it seems like it would affect other Jabber servers running the same software as jabber.org <http://jabber.org>
[15:46:39] <mebs> yesterday (I think, but now I am in UTC+0800) the gmail connectivity was broken, but it was repaired some time later without jabber.org server restart
[15:47:02] <mebs> maybe google people did something
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[15:52:47] <monroe51821> cant connect to jabber server
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[16:02:33] <nkt> weirdness. now i'm offline, but iChat claims i'm connected and available and i can see my contacts' online status.
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[16:08:23] <nkt> ah, just some odd iChat behavior. Working now. :D
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[16:45:56] <ameer.alkobraa> ‏?‏
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[16:48:03] <psa> !
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[18:32:04] <psa> I really need to start collecting clueless password reset messages :)
[18:32:14] <psa> I like this (full message): "I have lost my Jabber password. Please help me reset or retrieve it. Thank you!"
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[19:39:10] <ThurahT> if email address was stored with account the password retrieval process could be automated.. But then you wouldn't get all those funny messages..
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[20:08:17] <psa> ThurahT: yes, we are thinking about storing the email address -- I think we didn't do that in the very beginning for privacy reasons
[20:08:52] <ThurahT> yes.. there is always the risk of being hacked..
[20:08:55] <psa> ThurahT: I like the password requests from people whose accounts are not on jabber.org -- nasa.gov is one of my favorites
[20:09:12] <ThurahT> haha
[20:10:25] <ThurahT> what is the world going to when nasa employees doesn't know their own passwords..
[20:11:55] <psa> or think that I can change their passwords ;-)
[20:12:05] <ThurahT> oooh...
[20:12:07] <ThurahT> true.
[20:12:12] <psa> "yes, I have access to every jabber server on the internet!"
[20:12:38] <ThurahT> hehe..
[20:13:41] <ThurahT> I don't know any of my passwords.. I do a md5 on silly words and use the result as pass.
[20:13:52] <psa> I prefer SHA-1, but sure
[20:14:31] <ThurahT> true.. md5 is getting too comon.
[20:16:23] <psa> I haven't started using SHA-256 for this purpose, though ;-)
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[20:16:46] <ThurahT> hehe
[20:19:18] <psa> unfortunately, some systems can't accept long passwords
[20:19:33] <psa> especially banking sites, it seems :(
[20:19:49] <ThurahT> which is pretty ironic..
[20:19:55] <psa> indeed
[20:20:01] <psa> I complain about it, but it doesn't change
[20:20:09] <psa> so I switch banks :)
[20:20:25] <ThurahT> haha.. perfectly valid reason I'd say
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[20:36:17] <ThurahT> apparently both md5 and sha-1 is terrible broken.. sha-2 is still good and sha-3 is due this year. I got stuck on wikipedia again.. Haha.. you can actually get google to reverse lookup md5 hashes.
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[20:39:10] <psa> well, sha-1 is not as broken as MD5
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[20:39:22] <ThurahT> true.
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[20:40:54] <psa> someone I was just emailing with complained about http://www.jabber.org/faq/#delete
[20:40:59] <psa> he didn't like the requirement to send his password
[20:41:04] <psa> I told him to use PGP
[20:42:13] <ThurahT> he has the same pass on several services then..
[20:42:48] <psa> possibly
[20:42:53] <psa> or he's just being a jerk
[20:43:02] <psa> I suppose you're right
[20:43:03] <ThurahT> that too.. : )
[20:43:11] <psa> but of course I can look up his password anyway
[20:43:20] <psa> as if I have time for such shenanigans
[20:45:09] <ThurahT> hehe.. well, he should use gpg/pgp then so it's safe on the way at least.
[20:47:23] <psa> um yeah
[20:47:56] <psa> I'm always suspcious about people who claim to be super-concerned about security but then don't sign or encrypt their mail (especially when I've already signed mine)
[20:49:01] <ThurahT> lack of knowledge perhaps.. but it is weird indeed..
[20:53:32] <psa> ThurahT: where in Sweden do you live? have you met Zash in person? :)
[20:54:11] <ThurahT> nope.. Neither zash or jonas.. I'm in Stockholm.
[20:55:10] <psa> I met Zash and also Marcus Lundblad at FOSDEM this year -- I was in Stockholm a few years ago for an IETF meeting but I didn't see Marcus there
[20:55:20] <ThurahT> ok
[20:56:12] <psa> I liked Stockholm
[20:56:34] <ThurahT> zash popped by the general muc on jabber.se some time ago.. Other then that I don't know him..
[20:57:11] <psa> he lives up north somewhere
[20:57:32] <ThurahT> yeah.. Stockholm is nice.. At least the south part.
[20:58:37] <ThurahT> he has the coolest home page though..
[20:58:40] <ThurahT> : )
[20:59:13] <psa> /me laughs
[20:59:14] <psa> indeed
[20:59:30] <psa> I just visited it :)
[21:00:02] <ThurahT> its pretty straight forward..
[21:01:02] <psa> yes, that is one word for it ;-)
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