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[10:44:52] <Alex> small discussion to some BOSh experts
[10:45:02] <Alex> its about the following: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0124.html#overactive
[10:45:26] <Alex> horrible long sentence
[10:45:47] <Alex> but the conclusion to me is that the polling value also matters in binding mode
[10:46:07] <Alex> in practice I have not seen clients and servers care about it
[10:46:46] <Link Mauve> Alex, could you change the colour of your messages? They are invisible on a black background.
[10:47:02] <Alex> better now
[10:47:14] <Link Mauve> No.
[10:47:16] <Alex> just started the old exodus client
[10:47:22] <Link Mauve> Your text color is still black.
[10:47:45] <Link Mauve> Just disable it.
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[10:48:51] <Alex> switched to Psi now
[10:49:49] <Alex> so I start over again ,-)
[10:50:01] <Alex> about overactivity in BOSH
[10:50:09] <Alex> is defined here: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0124.html#overactive
[10:50:12] <Kev> Alex: It does and doesn't matter, I think.
[10:50:35] <Alex> Kev: what does this mean?
[10:50:46] <Alex> is des matter when the servr enforces it?
[10:50:46] <Kev> In as much as as long as you don't either go over the concurrent connection limit, or open new connections when the previous ones haven't had responses yet, you're ok.
[10:51:17] <Alex> I never open more than 2 conections
[10:52:17] <Alex> But I understand that it matters also if you don't fo over the connection limit and the last request has an empty body
[10:52:27] <Kev> Right. It's slightly more nuanced than just not opening more than 2 connections.
[10:52:48] <Alex> there is currently a discussion on jdev
[10:53:04] <Alex> this guy is using MatriX and openfire
[10:53:14] <Alex> and openfire alway reponds with error
[10:53:49] <Alex> but I think only when you there is the HTTP header Connection. close and the client does not keep alives
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[10:54:20] <Alex> this guys have a proxy in betwwen which I think is causing this mess, because MatriX does HTTP 1.1 with keep alives
[10:56:18] <Kev> I know that when I was coding BOSH for Swiften I saw this behaviour with Openfire, and it's because I was opening connections more than I should.
[10:56:31] <Alex> I think this is the relevant part of this sentence: " and if the last two requests arrived within a period shorter than the number of seconds specified by the 'polling' attribute "
[10:56:33] <Kev> (I think I was always keeping two connections open, or something)
[10:56:46] <Kev> Right.
[10:57:04] <Alex> I never have more than 2 requests
[10:57:22] <Alex> I have a customeer sening Bosh packets every 10ms to Openfire without problems
[10:57:38] <Alex> but in keep alive mode
[10:58:45] <Alex> problem is that I am not really interested to fix there anything
[10:58:56] <Alex> because I have not seen any problems with all other servers in binding mode
[10:59:01] <Kev> Right.
[10:59:16] <Kev> My understanding is that Openfire was unhelpful here, but that it was compliant.
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[15:15:50] <dwd> Here's an odd thing I've found - sending Gajim unavailable presence from an occupant's jid isn't enough to remove the occupant from the room. I wonder if it should be?
[15:17:02] <Zash> o.O
[15:24:30] <Kev> You'd think so.
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[22:16:27] <Florob> .
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[22:16:59] <Florob> !xep 60
[22:17:00] <xepbot> Florob: XEP-0060: Publish-Subscribe is Standards Track (Draft, 2010-07-12) See: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0060.html
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