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[09:12:04] <Guus> To resume my inquery of last night: presence broadcasts sent from a component (subdomain.example.org and/or localpart@subdomain.example.org)
- why would or would this not be allowable?
[09:12:52] <Guus> What if, for example, the component itself, or any of its users, are presence-subscribed to by any of the users of the xmpp
domain itself?
[09:14:11] <Kev> Guus: The point of a component is that it is its own controller - all the server does for it is provide it s2s.
[09:14:41] <Kev> It has no roster, so it can't presence broadcast.
[09:15:22] <Guus> That last part I don't understand - it's an entity in itself that is addressable - why then can't it broadcast presence?
[09:15:41] <Guus> That's how legacy gateways reflect presence on the legacy domain, iirc
[09:15:54] <Guus> ah, that's directed presence of course
[09:16:08] <Kev> Because broadcast presence is a special feature possessed by clients because they have rosters, and the roster tells the server
where broadcast presence should go.
[09:16:17] <Kev> Guus: They certainly don't, because it wouldn't work :)
[09:16:54] <Kev> Trying to send broadcast presence from a component means you're telling the server "I want you to send this and I'm not going
to tell you where".
[09:18:19] <Guus> "I want you to send this to all your users that are subscribed to my presence"
[09:18:51] <Guus> that was the loophole I was after ;)
[09:21:37] <Guus> But if I understand you correctly, presence broadcast must be based on the 'from' attribute of the subscription of the broadcastee,
instead of the 'to' subscriptions that are managed by the domain of the intended recipients?
[09:22:22] <Guus> although I'm happy to accept that, I'd love to fully understand why
[09:23:28] <Kev> Guus: I'm a component. Users a@1, b@1 and c@2 have me in their roster. I send a broadcast presence. Where should it go?
[09:24:39] <Guus> ah, good point. Didn't think of the s2s scenario
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