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[06:25:53] <zyx> wa wa wa wa wa wa
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[08:47:09] <akuckartz> Hi! I would like to have a Wiki account (because of http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q4_2011)!
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[09:40:38] <Alex> akuckartz@jabber.org: please send me you email address, real name and prefered nickname in private
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[18:57:26] <justin> xnyhps: i think you said you were able to login to msn xmpp?
[18:57:41] <xnyhps> I did, yes.
[19:01:20] <justin> does it work by simply passing the oauth2 access token as the first client sasl response?
[19:01:42] <xnyhps> Yes.
[19:03:59] <xnyhps> I tried getting a token that lasts longer than an hour, though, or if it's possible to request a new token without asking
the user to log in again.
[19:04:32] <xnyhps> *I haven't tried
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[19:09:12] <justin> ok i think i'll give it a shot too, i'm curious
[19:09:55] <justin> first to actually install windows live. i'm quite surprised it isn't present in windows 7 default install
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[19:17:50] <justin> xnyhps: how did you handle client ID? did you register adium with MS?
[19:18:55] <xnyhps> I registered for a key to test with, yeah (if we're ever going to ship with this, one of the lead devs will probably sign
up to get an official one).
[19:19:22] <justin> isn't this app reg stuff strange in an open source client?
[19:19:39] <xnyhps> Facebook does it too, AIM and ICQ as well.
[19:19:56] <xnyhps> I don't like it, but it's the only option here.
[19:20:47] <justin> what is the redirect domain used for in app reg?
[19:20:52] <xnyhps> ICQ did screw us over by removing our key, so for that we switched to a key we got from an official client.
[19:21:01] <justin> brilliant :)
[19:21:13] <Zash> Hahaha
[19:22:00] <Zash> Isn't this the same impossible problem that DRM is?
[19:24:22] <xnyhps> justin: I can't find it in the docs right now, but they have a special domain they say you should redirect too in case you're
not a web app.
[19:25:32] <xnyhps> Oh, it was https://oauth.live.com/desktop
[19:25:53] <Link Mauve> Even if they opened their s2s, and let people connect using their microsoft address, how would they handle people using an
email address from another provider?
[19:26:21] <xnyhps> Zash: Pretty much. If we can fake their whole protocol, we won't have much trouble finding a key. :P
[19:26:24] <Zash> JID escaping would be the XMPP thing to do.
[19:26:32] <Zash> Link Mauve ^
[19:27:30] <Zash> ie alice\40hotmail.com@live.com or whatever
[19:27:32] <Link Mauve> So user\40domain@something.microsoft.com? :/
[19:27:50] <xnyhps> Link Mauve: The JIDs they use right now are "random" hexadecimal strings @messenger.live.com.
[19:27:58] <Link Mauve> Oh, ok.
[19:27:58] <justin> xnyhps: hmm that's a url and not just a domain
[19:28:22] <xnyhps> justin: Oh, you mean for the registration? I think I just entered adium.im.
[19:29:12] <xnyhps> Link Mauve: In fact, they don't even include the MSN ID in the vcard or anything, so for some people I had a hard time figuring
out who they were.
[19:29:25] <Link Mauve> ^^'
[19:30:33] <xnyhps> I hope they plan on changing that though... I see no pretty way of adding contacts this way (but I fear they'll do the same
as Facebook and make your roster uneditable over XMPP).
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