Logs for jdev

Show join/part/nick changes:

[00:15:01] * darkrain_ left the chat.
[00:16:14] * psa joined the chat.
[00:33:44] * justin joined the chat.
[00:34:56] * darkrain joined the chat.
[01:48:01] * MattJ left the chat.
[02:16:49] * stpeter left the chat.
[02:18:07] * psa left the chat.
[03:47:31] * teo joined the chat.
[04:16:51] * scippio left the chat.
[05:21:42] * justin left the chat.
[05:30:58] * teo left the chat.
[05:31:42] * teo joined the chat.
[05:36:31] * scippio joined the chat.
[05:47:54] * teo left the chat.
[05:53:03] * Asterix joined the chat.
[06:05:18] * harrykar joined the chat.
[06:12:33] * Asterix left the chat.
[06:16:30] * Tobias joined the chat.
[06:23:09] * lastsky joined the chat.
[06:25:14] * zyx joined the chat.
[06:25:53] <zyx> wa wa wa wa wa wa
[06:42:16] * Alex joined the chat.
[06:52:08] * harrykar left the chat.
[06:56:13] * lastsky left the chat.
[07:08:22] * Xificurk left the chat.
[07:10:51] * Xificurk joined the chat.
[07:19:47] * jean.parpaillon joined the chat.
[07:27:51] * jean.parpaillon left the chat.
[07:30:01] * harrykar joined the chat.
[07:38:12] * louiz’ joined the chat.
[07:44:36] * tkoski joined the chat.
[07:44:36] * tkoski left the chat.
[07:52:26] * lubos joined the chat.
[07:53:56] * lubos left the chat.
[07:57:00] * zyx left the chat.
[07:59:33] * guus joined the chat.
[08:05:55] * xnyhps joined the chat.
[08:27:46] * deryni left the chat.
[08:30:13] * guus left the chat.
[08:31:45] * guus joined the chat.
[08:32:24] * akuckartz@jabber.org joined the chat.
[08:33:31] * Tobias left the chat.
[08:34:25] * akuckartz@jabber.org in now known as akuckartz.
[08:47:09] <akuckartz> Hi! I would like to have a Wiki account (because of http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_Q4_2011)!
[09:08:16] * aholler joined the chat.
[09:19:29] * xnyhps left the chat.
[09:20:22] * xnyhps joined the chat.
[09:23:06] * Ben Langfeld joined the chat.
[09:25:19] * Ben Langfeld left the chat.
[09:32:14] * akuckartz left the chat.
[09:40:38] <Alex> akuckartz@jabber.org: please send me you email address, real name and prefered nickname in private
[09:41:48] * jameschurchman joined the chat.
[09:56:27] * matrix joined the chat.
[10:01:31] * Hermitifier joined the chat.
[10:07:42] * matrix left the chat.
[10:18:48] * Tobias joined the chat.
[10:26:44] * jean.parpaillon joined the chat.
[10:42:09] * MattJ joined the chat.
[10:59:54] * jameschurchman left the chat.
[11:06:23] * Alex left the chat.
[11:06:23] * Alex joined the chat.
[11:09:33] * alkino joined the chat.
[11:12:45] * Florob joined the chat.
[11:46:34] * alkino left the chat.
[11:49:39] * deryni joined the chat.
[12:30:32] * naw joined the chat.
[12:33:50] * Hermitifier left the chat.
[12:35:18] * Hermitifier joined the chat.
[12:46:41] * luca tagliaferri joined the chat.
[12:50:50] * Tobias left the chat.
[13:16:51] * Hermitifier left the chat.
[13:36:15] * Tobias joined the chat.
[13:36:42] * jameschurchman joined the chat.
[13:37:34] * naw left the chat.
[13:59:54] * jean.parpaillon left the chat.
[14:00:24] * jean.parpaillon joined the chat.
[14:00:24] * jean.parpaillon left the chat.
[14:00:24] * jean.parpaillon joined the chat.
[14:00:24] * jean.parpaillon left the chat.
[14:00:24] * jean.parpaillon joined the chat.
[14:00:24] * jean.parpaillon left the chat.
[14:03:01] * Zash joined the chat.
[14:04:20] * jean.parpaillon joined the chat.
[14:12:09] * nielsvh joined the chat.
[14:19:23] * teo joined the chat.
[14:25:01] * nielsvh left the chat.
[14:31:09] * Alex left the chat.
[14:33:56] * alkino joined the chat.
[14:45:04] * darkrain_ joined the chat.
[14:47:18] * deryni left the chat.
[15:08:58] * jameschurchman80559 joined the chat.
[15:08:58] * jameschurchman80559 left the chat.
[15:08:58] * jameschurchman64801 joined the chat.
[15:23:40] * deryni joined the chat.
[15:24:06] * lastsky joined the chat.
[15:24:46] * lastsky left the chat.
[15:29:50] * psa joined the chat.
[15:35:16] * jameschurchman64801 left the chat.
[15:42:33] * Florob left the chat.
[15:42:45] * jameschurchman99170 joined the chat.
[15:42:45] * jameschurchman99170 left the chat.
[15:42:45] * jameschurchman6996 joined the chat.
[16:36:27] * thkoch2001 joined the chat.
[16:46:17] * guus left the chat.
[16:59:28] * Ben Klang left the chat.
[16:59:59] * jameschurchman left the chat.
[17:07:09] * alkino left the chat.
[17:07:15] * alkino joined the chat.
[17:14:07] * harrykar left the chat.
[17:14:26] * harrykar joined the chat.
[17:24:38] * luca tagliaferri left the chat.
[17:26:01] * Florob joined the chat.
[17:27:10] * Kev joined the chat.
[18:15:53] * Asterix joined the chat.
[18:28:44] * Hermitifier joined the chat.
[18:56:03] * justin joined the chat.
[18:56:18] * harrykar left the chat.
[18:57:05] * harrykar joined the chat.
[18:57:26] <justin> xnyhps: i think you said you were able to login to msn xmpp?
[18:57:41] <xnyhps> I did, yes.
[19:01:20] <justin> does it work by simply passing the oauth2 access token as the first client sasl response?
[19:01:42] <xnyhps> Yes.
[19:03:59] <xnyhps> I tried getting a token that lasts longer than an hour, though, or if it's possible to request a new token without asking the user to log in again.
[19:04:32] <xnyhps> *I haven't tried
[19:05:25] * ThibG joined the chat.
[19:09:12] <justin> ok i think i'll give it a shot too, i'm curious
[19:09:55] <justin> first to actually install windows live. i'm quite surprised it isn't present in windows 7 default install
[19:17:01] * harrykar left the chat.
[19:17:34] * harrykar joined the chat.
[19:17:50] <justin> xnyhps: how did you handle client ID? did you register adium with MS?
[19:18:55] <xnyhps> I registered for a key to test with, yeah (if we're ever going to ship with this, one of the lead devs will probably sign up to get an official one).
[19:19:22] <justin> isn't this app reg stuff strange in an open source client?
[19:19:39] <xnyhps> Facebook does it too, AIM and ICQ as well.
[19:19:56] <xnyhps> I don't like it, but it's the only option here.
[19:20:47] <justin> what is the redirect domain used for in app reg?
[19:20:52] <xnyhps> ICQ did screw us over by removing our key, so for that we switched to a key we got from an official client.
[19:21:01] <justin> brilliant :)
[19:21:13] <Zash> Hahaha
[19:22:00] <Zash> Isn't this the same impossible problem that DRM is?
[19:24:22] <xnyhps> justin: I can't find it in the docs right now, but they have a special domain they say you should redirect too in case you're not a web app.
[19:25:32] <xnyhps> Oh, it was https://oauth.live.com/desktop
[19:25:53] <Link Mauve> Even if they opened their s2s, and let people connect using their microsoft address, how would they handle people using an email address from another provider?
[19:26:21] <xnyhps> Zash: Pretty much. If we can fake their whole protocol, we won't have much trouble finding a key. :P
[19:26:24] <Zash> JID escaping would be the XMPP thing to do.
[19:26:32] <Zash> Link Mauve ^
[19:27:30] <Zash> ie alice\40hotmail.com@live.com or whatever
[19:27:32] <Link Mauve> So user\40domain@something.microsoft.com? :/
[19:27:50] <xnyhps> Link Mauve: The JIDs they use right now are "random" hexadecimal strings @messenger.live.com.
[19:27:58] <Link Mauve> Oh, ok.
[19:27:58] <justin> xnyhps: hmm that's a url and not just a domain
[19:28:22] <xnyhps> justin: Oh, you mean for the registration? I think I just entered adium.im.
[19:29:12] <xnyhps> Link Mauve: In fact, they don't even include the MSN ID in the vcard or anything, so for some people I had a hard time figuring out who they were.
[19:29:25] <Link Mauve> ^^'
[19:30:33] <xnyhps> I hope they plan on changing that though... I see no pretty way of adding contacts this way (but I fear they'll do the same as Facebook and make your roster uneditable over XMPP).
[19:34:14] * jameschurchman6996 left the chat.
[19:55:41] * thkoch2001 left the chat.
[20:09:52] * jameschurchman joined the chat.
[20:11:27] * Tobias left the chat.
[20:12:26] * Tobias joined the chat.
[20:14:51] * naw joined the chat.
[20:26:06] * jean.parpaillon left the chat.
[20:32:51] * deryni left the chat.
[20:33:09] * scippio left the chat.
[20:33:26] * scippio joined the chat.
[21:01:33] * mathieui joined the chat.
[21:06:45] * ThibG left the chat.
[21:36:08] * Asterix left the chat.
[21:58:42] * evilotto joined the chat.
[22:00:30] * Florob left the chat.
[22:22:54] * naw left the chat.
[22:26:08] * Zash left the chat.
[22:26:15] * Zash joined the chat.
[22:26:42] * psa left the chat.
[22:46:50] * MattJ left the chat.
[22:49:07] * MattJ joined the chat.
[22:49:57] * MattJ left the chat.
[22:50:20] * MattJ joined the chat.
[22:56:58] * MattJ left the chat.
[23:07:52] * Tobias left the chat.
[23:11:18] * Zash left the chat.
[23:20:29] * deryni joined the chat.
[23:27:32] * Florob joined the chat.
[23:41:54] * jameschurchman left the chat.