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[07:29:35] <swmohsin> hello, world!
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[16:56:10] <swmohsin> hi
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[17:13:44] <swmohsin> how am i supposed to get presence from a user who is not in my roster ?
[17:16:48] <naw> swmohsin: if you are not subscribed to his presence, you won't be able to
[17:17:13] <swmohsin> oh damn ...
[17:17:33] <swmohsin> i'm not subscribed to your presence ... but i can see that naw is online right now. how does that work ?
[17:18:32] <naw> oh, the rooms broadcast the presence of the participants
[17:19:00] <naw> you see me as jdev@conference.jabber.org/naw
[17:20:06] <swmohsin> hmmm ... i have a very strange application requirement that requires me to read presence of the users who are not in my roster ... and those users can be tens of thousands or more ... and i doint think it's a good idea to create a room with that many users
[17:21:44] <naw> tens of thousands? I think that for that kid of things server components are better
[17:21:59] <swmohsin> how ?
[17:22:15] <swmohsin> can i ask a server component about presence of any non-roster user ?
[17:22:47] <swmohsin> i know that presence protocol has a type 'probe' but the probe iq should come from the server ... not from a user or component
[17:22:49] <naw> the components handle better large amounts of users
[17:24:58] <naw> maybe if the users register on the component, the component could be aware of the presences... but I don't really know
[17:25:44] <naw> better wait until someone more savvy can take a look to the room
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[20:16:01] <Lance> Is the Q3 membership window still open?
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[20:16:42] <Kev> Yes.
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[20:16:58] <Kev> Ah, yes, Fritzy said something about you applying.
[20:17:01] <Lance> excellent, can I get a wiki account then?
[20:17:02] <Lance> yeah
[20:17:05] <Kev> I can make you a wiki account if you drop me a mail.
[20:17:13] <Kev> I'm not at my machine now (despite appearances).
[20:17:20] <Lance> ah, ok
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