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[20:40:31] <justin> what's the general feeling about "code on a node" approaches to pubsub?
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[20:46:40] <louiz’> what do you mean “code on a node”?
[21:00:58] <justin> i mean a usage of pubsub where there is some dynamic behavior such that generic XEP-60 servers would not be able to implement the usage
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[21:06:04] <Tobias> what prevents you from running some arbitrary code that provides access via pubsub protocol? or do you mean that node-specific code can be set via XMPP? ala programmable hooks that define custom behavior which is supposed to happen on certain events?
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[21:27:09] <justin> asdf
[21:27:33] <justin> wow, serious s2s issues. couldn't get back in here with either this account or gmail. weird
[21:28:18] <justin> Tobias: i mean running arbitrary code that uses the pubsub protocol
[21:28:39] <Tobias> yeah
[21:31:24] <Tobias> i think that it will be not that uncommon for many applications to have their existing bussiness logic code and just put a small layer about to provide a pubsub API to clients
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[21:40:22] <justin> yes, and i also think there are certain usages that just aren't possible (or practical) to do generically
[21:40:53] <justin> there's a thread on the standards list right now that involves my commenting xep (303)
[21:42:41] <Tobias> justin, "Microblogging: XEP-0277 and beyond" <-- this one?
[21:42:49] <justin> yep
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[22:47:54] <Tobias> justin, so where were you heading with the 'what the general feeling about code on the node' question? i mean as long as it implements the standard PubSub protocol, what's the problem?
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[22:49:19] <justin> Tobias: well sergey seems to have a strong opinion about not using special nodes
[22:50:18] <justin> so i wanted to know what others are doing
[22:51:29] <Tobias> personally I havent'd done anything pubsub related for more than a half year IIRC :)
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[22:52:51] <Tobias> last thing was the try to write a web project management software which exposes a pubsub interface...the bosh client the logs in and subscribes to issues, searches, etc. and uses some light-weight ad-hoc commands to manage things
[22:54:54] <Tobias> i see nothing wrong in specialized, application specific pubsub-components...which can apply lots of optimizations a general component could never do
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[23:10:13] <Tobias> well..got to hit the sheets...gn8
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