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[16:29:02] <Tobias> according to http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0234.html , is a the sender required to either send the file hash with the session-initiate
or send it late via session-info? or is that optional?
[16:35:16] <stpeter> hi Tobias
[16:35:25] <stpeter> that is optional
[16:35:46] <Tobias> hi :)
[16:35:47] <Tobias> okay
[16:36:01] <Tobias> then i can't depend on it to be send
[16:36:18] <Kev> Is there any reason not to require it?
[16:36:41] <Kev> I guess it's expensive to calculate on very large files.
[16:36:56] <Tobias> Kev, you could do it on the fly
[16:37:09] <Kev> True.
[16:37:18] <Tobias> but yeah..for mobile devices or so that still might be expensive
[16:37:21] <stpeter> right
[16:37:25] <stpeter> that was the idea, IIRC
[16:37:32] <Kev> Are mobile devices sending large files?
[16:37:53] <Tobias> Kev, don't know..nowadays mobile phones can take 720p videos :)
[16:37:58] <stpeter> heh true
[16:38:10] <Kev> Point. They can also do heavy computational lifting :)
[16:38:57] <Tobias> stpeter, any particular reason the communicating hash stanza isn't inside of a <content/> tag?
[16:43:48] <stpeter> /me looks at the spec
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[16:46:25] <stpeter> any reason why we'd put the hash in the definition of the content type?
[16:46:31] <stpeter> I don't see why that would make sense
[16:46:42] <Tobias> isn't it content related?
[16:47:31] <stpeter> it's related to the session, but that's why it's in a session-info message
[16:47:57] <Tobias> ah..okay
[16:48:24] <Tobias> another quesiton..hash doesn't match up..what kind of error i can decide between security-error or media-error :)
[16:48:40] <stpeter> I mean, it's not an offer and it's not a request, but I suppose we could define a new child element of the <description/>
element
[16:50:10] <stpeter> so we could have:
<description xmlns='urn:xmpp:jingle:apps:file-transfer:3'>
<checksum>
<file>
<hashes xmlns='urn:xmpp:hashes:0'>
<hash algo='sha-1'>552da749930852c69ae5d2141d3766b1</hash>
</hashes>
</file>
</checksum>
</description>
but I don't see any functional difference...
[16:50:57] <Tobias> yeah..nvm then
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