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[01:15:00] <ThurahT> Am I the only one seeing like 20 each of you guys?
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[01:40:21] <darkrain> ThurahT: I'm going to guess you're using Pidgin 2.9.0, in which case you're experiencing a known issue (fixed in the next release). Restarting Pidgin will resolve it until the next time you log off/log back in.
[01:41:08] <darkrain> Ah, and you are using Pidgin 2.9.0. :)
[01:41:16] <ThurahT> Sure am : )
[01:43:57] <ThurahT> So why is acting like that? Like Eric Betts joins every 4 or minute.
[01:44:10] <ThurahT> 4 or 5
[01:45:14] <darkrain> It's a bug (each time the status gets updated, it's treated like the person joining again)
[01:46:36] <darkrain> That code was revamped to deal with a nasty performance regression introduced in 2.8.0 with large IRC chat rooms, and I insufficiently tested it.
[01:46:49] <darkrain> (or rather, missed the corner case which apparently everyone else hits :) )
[01:46:54] <ThurahT> Yeah I read about that one
[01:47:04] <ThurahT> hehe.. yeah..
[01:47:16] <darkrain> So really I should say: Stop disconnecting and reconnecting from your account!
[01:47:59] <ThurahT> : )
[01:50:20] <ThurahT> I've got 125 ppl in the room right now. Eric Betts being most of them.
[01:50:54] <darkrain> I suspect he's joined from Google, which retransmits presence every 5 minutes.
[01:51:10] <ThurahT> I only see one darkrain in the list. But tab completion shows 4.
[01:51:19] <darkrain> Hahaha.
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[01:53:47] <ThurahT> Now it looks normal. Until the next status updates I take it. Hm. I kinda nice feature anyway.. Like a counter of some sort.
[01:54:15] <darkrain> It only starts happening after you disconnect/reconnect from the server.
[01:55:01] <ThurahT> Oh.. And my account got reconnected..
[01:55:19] <ThurahT> Beacasue I have it on auto rejoin. I see.
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[07:04:29] <Rajehmadian4> Hi
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[09:39:38] <pinchartl> hi
[09:42:51] <pinchartl> Kev: I told stpeter I would bother you with the gmail.com <-> jabber.org S2S issues today :-)
[09:43:16] <Kev> Excellent. I'm busy now, though.
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[09:47:00] <pinchartl> Kev: please let me know when you'll have some time
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[12:08:09] <chevdor> hello, I am trying to find resources to write a bot (based on jabberbot for instance) that could react to regexp in a MUC. I checked out python-jabberbot but the demo shows only how to react to commands
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[12:09:31] <chevdor> Typically, I need a bot to interact with redmine. And I would like the bot to react to patterns such as "#1234". When the bot sees, I would like him/it :) to give the full URL: http:/myredmine.corp/issues/1234 for instance
[12:09:32] <louiz’> hum, I personnaly know SleekXMPP, wich makes it easy to write a bot
[12:09:52] <Kev> Indeed, there's even SleekBot.
[12:10:29] <louiz’> indeed
[12:13:29] <chevdor> thx guys, that gives me a start point, I am checking
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[12:26:22] <chevdor> where can you get sleekbot from actually? the svn repo on code.google is empty
[12:27:13] <Kev> https://github.com/Kev/SleekBot - although I've not updated it in a while, so possibly one of the forks will be more current.
[12:29:28] <chevdor> it does not really matter as long as I get a start point that works, thx again
[12:32:23] <Kev> I'm afraid it's one of those projects that I don't have time for any more.
[12:32:34] <Kev> SleekXMPP, the library behind it, is very active, though.
[12:32:44] <louiz’> indeed
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[21:49:16] <pinchartl> hi
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[21:50:03] <pinchartl> have I mentioned jabber.org <-> gmail.com S2S issues ? :-)
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[22:51:45] <d3lxa42> hello, got problems with friends on gtalk, i see them offline and so do they, am i alone?
[22:52:49] <d3lxa42> (not the first time, it had happened twice a few days ago)
[22:53:17] <pinchartl> d3lxa42: the problem isn't new, it hits me almost daily
[22:54:06] <d3lxa42> oh :( not good, what is the problem, google or jabber.org, any solution?
[22:54:12] <pinchartl> I wish I knew
[22:54:35] <pinchartl> it seems that not enough people pester the jabber.org operators about this issue :-)
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[22:55:19] <d3lxa42> yeah… and I know maybe why all my friends all use google :(
[22:55:54] <ThurahT> d3lxa42: have you tried a different server?
[22:59:08] <d3lxa42> Trying at the moment, tell you soon
[23:00:18] <pinchartl> gmail.com <-> jabber.org S2S is back for me
[23:00:41] <d3lxa42> inter-server is working with im.apinc.org
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[23:06:19] <d3lxa42> i'm using my gmail account and it is working, but i don't see the others…
[23:08:18] <d3lxa42> trying to reconnect
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[23:17:17] <d3lxa42> i don't see any of my friends… i will come again later if it isn't working
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[23:25:10] <carter4047> if a user is connected with several resources, how does the server knows which one is active?
[23:27:44] <pinchartl> carter4047: resources have a priority. the server will route messages to the resource with the highest priority by default
[23:28:41] <carter4047> pinchartl: let's say I'm connected with resource A with priority 10
[23:28:58] <carter4047> now I'm connecting with resource B as well
[23:29:13] <carter4047> I need to have higher priority but it feels a bit dirty
[23:29:44] <carter4047> because I might go higher and higher until I'll reach 128
[23:30:06] <pinchartl> right. I'm not an XMPP expert, so I don't know how that's supposed to be handled
[23:31:03] <carter4047> resource B could use priority 10 and resource A could automatically decrease its priority
[23:32:05] <carter4047> again, feels dirty
[23:35:21] <pinchartl> you will have to ask an expert
[23:35:26] <carter4047> thanks
[23:37:36] <stpeter> some servers send the message to all connected resources and then the clients have a way to tell each other that they received any given message (this is how google talk does it)
[23:37:55] <stpeter> but in general most xmpp servers base their delivery decisions on presence priority
[23:37:58] <stpeter> bbiab
[23:38:09] <pinchartl> stpeter: isn't the gtalk behaviour against the XMPP spec ?
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[23:40:26] <carter4047> stpeter: even if google talk sends the message to all connected resources, it still have an 'active' resource
[23:40:40] <carter4047> in gmail the chat panels of all other resources are collapsed
[23:42:28] <stpeter> pinchartl: no, there is wiggle room, and even more wiggle room in RFC 6120 than in RFC 3920 (to enable just this kind of behavior)
[23:43:21] <stpeter> carter4047: are you talking about UI or protocol? I admit I have not studied what Google does for the UI or the protocol, but it sounds like you're talking abou the user interface
[23:44:45] <carter4047> stepter: the UI just shows that gtalk has an active resource
[23:44:51] <carter4047> or a resource with highest priority
[23:55:04] <pinchartl> /me is off to bed
[23:55:05] <pinchartl> g'night
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[23:57:13] <stpeter> carter4047: the feature I mentioned applies if you log in with the Google Talk client, not with any random XMPP client (Psi, Pidgin, Swift, etc.)
[23:57:24] <stpeter> it's a special Google extension
[23:57:58] <stpeter> anyway, I need to go
[23:57:59] <stpeter> bbl
[00:01:43] <carter4047> I'm also speaking on a single type of client (gmail)
[00:01:43] <carter4047> thanks
[00:01:44] <carter4047> bye
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