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[07:36:20] <carter17867> ^^!
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[08:18:18] <hoover57224> Anyone any idea as to how i can direct a message to all attendants in a jabber?
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[15:10:28] <truman59448> hello
[15:10:42] <truman59448> so let me know
[15:10:48] <truman59448> something please
[15:11:19] <truman59448> what is the port 50226 from server to client what does that mean?
[15:19:07] <Tobias> from server to client?
[15:19:13] <Tobias> could be anything
[15:19:14] <truman59448> yes
[15:19:32] <truman59448> have to be jabber protocol
[15:19:38] <MattJ> Does it?
[15:19:42] <truman59448> client side 50222
[15:19:45] <truman59448> ok
[15:19:50] <truman59448> but what the hell is 50226
[15:19:54] <MattJ> No idea
[15:20:03] <truman59448> ok
[15:20:14] <Tobias> standard jabber port ist 5222
[15:20:22] <truman59448> ok
[15:20:54] <truman59448> and if you want to encrypt the message you have to use 5233
[15:20:55] <truman59448> right?
[15:21:08] <MattJ> No, old clients use 5223
[15:21:16] <MattJ> But you can encrypt on 5222 as well
[15:21:20] <truman59448> aaa
[15:21:20] <truman59448> ok
[15:21:45] <truman59448> so only the message will be encrypted or the whole header?
[15:21:48] <MattJ> Most servers offer both ports for compatibility
[15:22:00] <MattJ> The whole connection between you and the server is encrypted
[15:22:25] <truman59448> cause if you look at the whatsapp messenger for iphone you will see that the context is encrypted but your telefon number not
[15:22:46] <truman59448> so if you send somebody a message you will see the name and the telephonenumber in plain text
[15:22:47] <truman59448> ...
[15:23:17] <MattJ> Of course the message has been decrypted by the time it reaches the recipient
[15:23:24] <truman59448> yes ok
[15:23:34] <MattJ> otherwise it would be pretty pointless sending them messages they couldn't read :)
[15:23:42] <MattJ> I can't comment on whatsapp though, I don't use it
[15:24:06] <truman59448> my infrastructure is : iphone with whatsapp using jabber proto i am the man in the middle and log all sent data with wireshark
[15:24:16] <truman59448> an i cannot see any plain text message
[15:24:30] <truman59448> but the telephonnumber is in plaintext sent
[15:24:45] <MattJ> because you are logging between the client and the server, which is encrypted
[15:24:51] <MattJ> the server decrypts it
[15:25:05] <truman59448> you don't understand me
[15:25:28] <truman59448> i know that one encrypts the message and decrypts the message
[15:25:57] <truman59448> but in the client - server connection which is opend at starting the application you can see the number and the name of your contacts
[15:25:57] <truman59448> ;)
[15:26:03] <truman59448> IN PLAINTEXT
[15:26:39] <Link Mauve> But that doesn't use XMPP, does it?
[15:26:46] <truman59448> so my question is if you can programmitly say ok only the message should be encrypted
[15:26:49] <truman59448> jabber xml
[15:27:05] <truman59448> and yes xmpp
[15:27:07] <truman59448> ;)
[15:27:21] <Link Mauve> If it uses standard TLS, you shouldn't be able to intercept anything unencrypted.
[15:27:44] <MattJ> except the pre-TLS-negotiation
[15:27:54] <truman59448> try it out
[15:27:57] <Link Mauve> Yes, ofc.
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[15:28:11] <truman59448> wait
[15:28:12] <MattJ> but certainly that doesn't include the "names of your contacts"
[15:28:51] <truman59448> of course
[15:29:03] <truman59448> the contacts of your addressbook is sent to the sever
[15:29:05] <truman59448> server
[15:29:05] <truman59448> sry
[15:29:47] <MattJ> Over an encrypted connection
[15:30:01] <truman59448> ok
[15:30:08] <truman59448> i show you the wireshark output
[15:30:08] <truman59448> ok?
[15:30:48] <MattJ> email it to mwild1@gmail.com if you like, I need to run to a meeting
[15:30:59] <truman59448> kk
[15:35:25] <truman59448> got mail
[15:35:26] <truman59448> ;)
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[15:37:34] <Shane> hello
[15:37:42] <Shane> just wondering what i'm doing wrong here...
[15:38:04] <Shane> in empathy i am creating a chat called 'blah-blah'
[15:38:14] <Shane> and then trying to invite other people but it doesn't seem to work?
[15:38:17] <Shane> any ideas
[15:41:04] <truman59448> ..
[15:41:46] <Link Mauve> Shane, did you specify the server on which you want to create the room?
[15:42:07] <Shane> Link Mauve: no just typed in the name
[15:42:31] <Shane> Link Mauve: is there a different server...? so should it be blah-blah@conference.jabber.org?
[15:42:37] <Link Mauve> Yes, that.
[15:42:45] <Shane> Link Mauve: I'll give it a try thanks
[15:42:54] <Link Mauve> You can use any conference server, this one is an example.
[15:43:24] <Link Mauve> The best is the one you have an account on, but you can choose whichever you want.
[15:43:45] <Shane> hrm... ok not sure which server i have an account on...
[15:43:48] <Shane> /me new to this
[15:45:07] <Link Mauve> If your JID is shane@jabber.org, jabber.org is your server.
[15:45:27] <Shane> Link Mauve: right... sorry I figured that there was more to that then jabber.org
[15:46:00] <Shane> Link Mauve: ok I think i get it people can register on lots of different servers and work through the jabber interface
[15:46:14] <Link Mauve> Yes.
[15:46:28] <Shane> right
[15:46:33] <Shane> like i said i'm new heh
[15:46:34] <louiz’> and you can talk to people an any jabber server, from any other server
[15:46:43] <Shane> yep which is really cool
[15:46:48] <louiz’> yep
[15:47:13] <Shane> ok so i just created blah-blah can anyone else connect to that
[15:47:20] <Shane> my client using Adium cannot which is kinda weird
[15:47:29] <Shane> it will be blah-blah@conference.jabber.org
[15:47:56] <louiz’> seems like blah-blah is not a valid room name
[15:48:07] <Shane> strange cause it let's me make that
[15:48:11] <louiz’> ah
[15:48:15] <Shane> is it the dash?
[15:48:47] <louiz’> maybe
[15:48:56] <Link Mauve> No, I'm on this room and everything works well.
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[15:49:45] <shaneonabike> weird everytime i try to join it i get kicked off jabber
[15:49:46] <shaneonabike> eek
[15:50:05] <shaneonabike> just created blah.blah perhaps that will work instead
[15:50:10] <louiz’> 17:50:39 Error: 404 - cancel: The room does'nt exist I get that…
[15:50:20] <shaneonabike> louiz’: can you try blah.blah
[15:50:40] <louiz’> same thing
[15:50:46] <shaneonabike> weird
[15:50:55] <shaneonabike> so maybe empathy isn't creating the conference room properly
[15:52:00] <Link Mauve> louiz’, from here, if you "/join blah-blah" what do you get?
[15:52:16] <louiz’> that
[15:52:23] <louiz’> 17:50:39 Error: 404 - cancel: The room does'nt exist
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[15:52:37] <Link Mauve> I'm on it. :/
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[15:52:43] <shaneonabike> Link Mauve: thanks
[15:53:01] <shaneonabike> Link Mauve: can you get onto blah.blah
[15:53:12] <Link Mauve> No, I get 404.
[15:53:17] <shaneonabike> weird
[15:53:37] <Link Mauve> louiz’, I closed the blah-blah room, can you retry?
[15:53:38] <louiz’> maybe that’s locked for configuration?
[15:53:49] <louiz’> now works
[15:54:12] <louiz’> Link Mauve, try to join it now
[15:56:23] <louiz’> 7.2.11 Locked Room If a user attempts to enter a room while it is "locked" (i.e., before the room creator provides an initial configuration and therefore before the room officially exists), the service MUST refuse entry and return an <item-not-found/> error to the user:
[15:56:26] <louiz’> that was that
[15:59:24] <shaneonabike> Link Mauve: actually how did you unlock that conference?
[15:59:44] <shaneonabike> Link Mauve: i had actually wanted to setup a difference conference room but was testing with blah.blah
[15:59:50] <Link Mauve> It was louiz’.
[15:59:51] <shaneonabike> Link Mauve: did you do that in your client?
[15:59:55] <Link Mauve> I wasn't an owner.
[16:00:00] <shaneonabike> louiz’: ^
[16:00:08] <Link Mauve> But with /configure I could have done that.
[16:00:34] <louiz’> I joined the room, and then used /configure to configure it, it just set a room name and validated the configuration.
[16:00:44] <louiz’> then it was unlocked
[16:01:00] <shaneonabike> louiz’: your a legend thanks
[16:01:09] <louiz’> yeah 8)
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[16:10:52] <shaneonabike> louiz’: strange when i do a /configure it's not a valid option
[16:10:57] <shaneonabike> louiz’: sorry to keep pestering you
[16:11:06] <shaneonabike> louiz’: don't spose you want to configure my 'real' chatroom for me
[16:11:11] <louiz’> yeah, it depends on your client
[16:11:15] <shaneonabike> damn
[16:11:15] <louiz’> I don’t use empathy
[16:11:27] <shaneonabike> yeah alright i guess i could install pidgin
[16:11:30] <shaneonabike> that sucksss
[16:11:31] <louiz’> that should be in the menus somewhere
[16:11:31] <shaneonabike> thanks
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