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[13:30:38] <louiz’> I’ve a quick look at Matt Miller’s E2E slides, and I’m wondering: is the complete stanza supposed to be encrypted? If yes, how is the server supposed to know what the destination is, since the to="" attribute is also encrypted? Or is this like http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/secure.html#sect-id2243934 where the real encrypted stanza is contained in a <secure/> element, within a stanza where the to="" is in clear?
[13:31:41] <florob> louiz’: The complete stanza is encrypted and then embeded in a new stanza with the to attribute copied
[13:32:15] <florob> louiz’: also, are you aware that meating is going on right now (also not yet reached e2e) ;)
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[13:32:45] <louiz’> ok
[13:32:50] <louiz’> no, where is it at? :o
[13:33:33] <florob> chat: xmpp:xmpp@jabber.ietf.org?join audio: http://ietf81streaming.dnsalias.net/ietf/ietf804.m3u slides:https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/81/materials.html#wg-xmpp
[13:33:59] <louiz’> thanks
[13:34:42] <Kev> Bother. I'd not checked timezones. Thanks Florob.
[14:01:01] <Tobias> in XEP-0065 there is "DST.ADDR = SHA1 Hash of: (SID + Requester JID + Target JID)" <-- is that direct SHA1 or Base64'd SHA-1
[14:04:35] <Asterix> "the output is hexadecimal-encoded (not binary)"
[14:05:04] <Tobias> Asterix..arg..thx...overread that
[14:05:12] <Asterix> no pb :)
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[14:19:23] <louiz’> so, no issue was raised regarding E2E, does this mean this will be standardized pertty soon? :p
[14:21:21] <florob> Well, apparently we are going to depend on work from a WG that doesn't even exist yet...
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[14:22:27] <louiz’> ah :(
[14:25:30] <florob> I think the problem is that the people who care most about this and want a fast solution don't work on it. And everyone else is just not that interested. (Not saying they don't care, but the "I need this and I need this quick" attitude is not there). According to charter the WG has decided on a direction for E2EE 1-2 years ago I think.
[14:25:53] <florob> *should have
[14:26:31] <louiz’> Will this be in a XEP or a RFC or doesn’t that matter?
[14:26:44] <Kev> It makes no pratical difference to implementors or users, I think.
[14:26:54] <Kev> XMPP WG output would be RFCish, though.
[14:28:10] <florob> not that XEPs are not looking somewhat RFCish :)
[14:28:53] <louiz’> ok
[14:30:25] <louiz’> I wish I could help, but I’m too bad at “protocoling” to be useful…
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[17:26:40] <alkino> lol swift crash when I want to join jdev xD
[17:28:41] <Kev> Backtrace?
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[17:29:00] <alkino> how ?
[17:29:07] <Kev> What platform are you on?
[17:29:17] <alkino> linux => archlinux
[17:29:22] <alkino> swift from AUR
[17:29:40] <Kev> As long as it was compiled without being stripped, gdb /usr/X11/bin/swift (or wherever) r
[17:29:47] <Kev> Then when it crashes bt
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[17:42:31] <alkino> #1 0x00007ffff2213c0b in abort () from /lib/libc.so.6
[17:42:31] <alkino> #2 0x00007ffff220b53e in ?? () from /lib/libc.so.6
[17:42:31] <alkino> #3 0x00007ffff220b5e2 in __assert_fail () from /lib/libc.so.6
[17:42:31] <alkino> #4 0x000000000069d34c in ?? ()
[17:42:31] <alkino> #5 0x0000000000628dec in Swift::CapsManager::handleDiscoInfoReceived(Swift::JID const&, std::basic_string<char, std::char_traits<char>, std::allocator<char> > const&, boost::shared_ptr<Swift::DiscoInfo>, boost::shared_ptr<Swift::ErrorPayload>) ()
[17:43:14] <Kev> Can you copy a load of those into PM with me please?
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[17:51:52] <alkino> ok
[17:51:57] <alkino> if you need more info tell me
[17:52:19] <Kev> Thanks - it looks like your packages have been mostly stripped, so unless there's a package with debug symbols you're able to install, I don't think so.
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[17:57:31] <alkino> I will compile it myself
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[18:01:26] <Kev> That'd be wonderful, thanks very much.
[18:01:44] <Kev> I'm sure Remko can work it out though, if it's a hassle to compile it yourself.
[18:08:45] <alkino> I'm sorry but I will look after :p
[18:09:00] <alkino> scons: *** SCons version 2.0.0.final.0 does not run under Python version 3.2.1.
[18:09:04] <alkino> I haven't time now ^^
[18:09:06] <alkino> sorry
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[18:21:05] <Kev> Thanks for trying :)
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[19:29:58] <alkino> why use scons ?
[19:30:10] <alkino> I can't compile out of source
[19:30:15] <alkino> to have something clean
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[19:36:10] <alkino> I found an option !
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