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[16:28:12] <alkino> hi all
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[16:47:08] <alkino> is T Markmann here ?
[16:53:06] <Kev> /me points at Tobias.
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[17:11:57] <Jon> i'm a little confused about this in xmpp core: 4.7.4: "For response stream headers, the receiving entity MUST include the
'xml:lang' attribute.", vs. 15: "Include an 'xml:lang' attribute in the initial stream header. Client SHOULD, Server SHOULD."
[17:12:45] <Jon> (if it is SHOULD, can the initiating entity assume the language?)
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[17:36:33] <Florob> Jon: that looks like an oversight to me. Both initial and response stream header should probably be "SHOULD"s in 4.7.4. As
for assumptions, if the responding entity doesn't specify one in the stream and the stanza doesn't specify one either you
have no way to know what the used language is.
[17:39:03] <Florob> OTOH there might be a legitimate reason it's MUST and the entry is just missing from section 15. (Note it only refers to initial,
not response)
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[17:52:49] <Jon> oh, i see. the server can be an initiating entity too :)
[17:53:08] <Jon> then perhaps it is correct after all?
[17:54:14] <Florob> Well, there is at least one mistake. There should be a stream-attribute-response-lang. The MUST may or may not be correct...
[17:54:21] <Florob> +feature
[17:54:43] <Jon> ok
[17:55:43] <Florob> Well, techincally it's in the RFC so it's correct per definition ;)
[17:55:46] <Jon> it would be nice to always have a language on the stream
[17:56:00] <Jon> set language in the stream*
[17:56:05] <Jon> hehe
[17:56:48] <Jon> /me doesn't like undefined values
[18:02:04] <Jon> thanks florob
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[20:25:40] <Jon> for the presence element, why is there a sequence that starts with show, status and priority? also, does the xs:any element
mean that a message stanza can contain something other than an xml element (like cdata) in the root of the stanza?
[20:26:05] <Jon> see A.6. Server Namespace in http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6120
[20:26:42] <Jon> "<xs:element name='message'>"
[20:27:12] <Jon> sorry, i mean presence - <xs:element name='presence'>
[20:28:56] <Jon> no idea why i was looking at server namespace either :P
[20:31:39] <Jon> it looks like xs:any refers to any _element_, and i guess it's good for parsers that the message/presence must start with
the sequence of subject, body and thread... so nvm
[20:46:16] <Florob> Jon: that is actually not what it says. The sequence just orders normal subelements before xs:any before errors. The xs:choice
(at least I think that's the extension) allows you to put subject, body and thread in any order you want as long as they occur
before of everything else.
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[20:47:33] <Jon> thanks again :)
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