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[07:31:20] <Badja> Hi server talkonaut blocked in my countrey what i can do? Use proxy ?
[07:31:54] <Badja> Or i can use some host ?
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[14:36:49] <dynam1te> Badja: apparently you have left the channel, but in case you come back: you could try using a proxy or use a different server
[14:37:19] <dynam1te> good afternoon/morning/evening
[14:37:55] <ThurahT> good afternoon
[14:38:26] <dynam1te> I have noticed that the AIM - ICQ bridge has stopped working a few weeks ago and now it is back. However, buddy icons are no longer visible across the bridge. I
[14:38:51] <dynam1te> 've seen similar behavior when using Jabber transports
[14:39:50] <dynam1te> could this mean that AIM and ICQ have decided to use XMPP to interconnect their networks?
[14:40:42] <ThurahT> They use oscar
[14:41:02] <dynam1te> i know that they use oscar for client to server
[14:41:29] <ThurahT> ah.. you're thinking of s2s between aim and icq?
[14:41:35] <dynam1te> but AIM has implemented XMPP S2S for federation with a few selected Jabber servers
[14:41:52] <dynam1te> yeah, that's what I'm thinking about
[14:42:29] <dynam1te> It would only make sense given that they federate with GoogleTalk and some others via XMPP
[14:42:33] <ThurahT> Well that could be.. I ahve no idea..Stopped using icq since it wasn't mirabilis anymore.. : )
[14:43:14] <dynam1te> I have decided to leave ICQ
[14:43:29] <dynam1te> even though it means loosing some contacts
[14:44:11] <ThurahT> Yeah.. I made a mass notice to those left on icq too join any xmpp server and add me there instead.. worked out pretty fine.
[14:44:21] <ThurahT> *to
[14:44:40] <dynam1te> ThurahT: That's what I did, too
[14:45:44] <ThurahT> icq was great during the 90's.. : )
[14:46:42] <dynam1te> well, now that I have read about XMPP S2S at AIM, I started wondering whether AIM (and maybe ICQ) might federate with the Jabber Server of my choice before I really pull the plug on my ICQ account
[14:46:42] <ThurahT> now most of everyone is on FB.. I am actually thinking of creating an account just to have the FB chat in pidign..
[14:47:40] <ThurahT> yeah.. you could always keep it and see..
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[18:11:26] <vanburen20247> hey
[18:11:36] <vanburen20247> question..
[18:12:06] <vanburen20247> in what lang can i write an app, that can 'get' a jabber online contact list, then analyze it..?
[18:12:34] <Kev> Pretty much any.
[18:12:47] <louiz’> you want to connect and retrieve a roster? Yes, almost any
[18:13:16] <Kev> I've personally used Java, C++, C, Python and Lua for XMPP dev work.
[18:13:29] <Kev> Many other languages have libraries too.
[18:13:35] <Kev> Oh, and Javascript, forgot that on.
[18:13:38] <Kev> *one.
[18:13:38] <vanburen20247> and they support jabber protocol?
[18:14:29] <Kev> Jabber isn't a protocol - you mean XMPP.
[18:14:37] <vanburen20247> yeah.. i'm new :P.
[18:14:47] <Kev> And yes, all of those, and many others, have XMPP libraries.
[18:15:04] <vanburen20247> how complicated is it?
[18:15:24] <vanburen20247> where do i start?
[18:15:27] <Kev> http://swift.im/swiften, for example.
[18:17:07] <vanburen20247> what is that exactly?
[18:17:24] <Kev> Swiften is an XMPP library for C++.
[18:17:36] <Kev> http://swift.im/swiften/guide/ is a quick-start guide.
[18:17:48] <vanburen20247> what does that mean "XMPP library"?
[18:18:16] <vanburen20247> any "XMPP for dummies" out there?
[18:18:17] <vanburen20247> lol
[18:18:29] <Kev> http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596157197/
[18:18:59] <Kev> Not for dummies, but for people who don't know anything about XMPP :)
[18:19:11] <vanburen20247> good enough.. anything free online?
[18:19:51] <Kev> All the specifications are available for free online - but that's probably not what you want if you're an absolute beginner.
[18:20:12] <vanburen20247> ok.. and what is the relationship between xmpp anb jabber?
[18:20:18] <vanburen20247> and*
[18:20:30] <Kev> Jabber was the name of the very first server, back around 1999.
[18:20:47] <Kev> The IETF standardised the protocol it used, in 2004, and named it XMPP.
[18:21:05] <Kev> These days people say "Jabber" to mean the public network of services that use the XMPP protocol.
[18:21:23] <vanburen20247> i see.. interesting.
[18:21:54] <vanburen20247> is it possible to retrieve a roster, without being 'online' formally?
[18:22:20] <Kev> Do you mean "without having a status saying you're online"?
[18:22:23] <Kev> If so, yes.
[18:22:43] <Kev> If you login to the server, but don't send a status, this will happen.
[18:23:00] <vanburen20247> Sounds right..
[18:23:24] <vanburen20247> after i retrieve a roster.. i can do anything with it, right?
[18:23:36] <Kev> "anything with it"?
[18:23:38] <vanburen20247> i guess so, language basics.
[18:23:53] <vanburen20247> output, search and so on.
[18:24:47] <Kev> I imagine that whatever library/language you pick, it'll just be a data structure you can play with. If you want to make changes to the roster on the server, you'll need to send some stanzas, but the library'll make that easy, probably.
[18:25:49] <vanburen20247> well my goal isn't even that far.. it's just to retrieve a roster, and notify the user with specific details. sounds easy, no?
[18:34:31] <vanburen20247> Thanks Kev for your help.
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[23:28:31] <bjk> are there known issues communicating with google talk?
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[23:28:51] <louiz’> yes
[23:29:06] <bjk> ok, just making sure it wasnt my client
[23:29:19] <bjk> any idea when it'll get fixed?
[23:30:39] <louiz’> don’t know
[23:33:44] <bjk> are u part of the jabber team/devs?
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[23:37:29] <louiz’> I code a Jabber client :p
[23:37:40] <louiz’> But I’m not part of the jabber.org team.
[23:37:57] <louiz’> but I’m part of the jabber community :)
[23:42:08] <bjk> :)
[23:42:15] <bjk> what client do u code?
[23:43:49] <louiz’> poezio
[23:43:54] <louiz’> (http://poezio.eu)
[23:46:08] <bjk> neat. i didnt know u could do conferences without logging in
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